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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2013, 02:44:43 pm »
That's a very balanced build.
At 1080p you'll be maxxing out anything and hitting 40 FPS-60 FPS (depending on the game) without AA / with 2x MSAA.

Possible improvements on that build:
+1 TB hard drive. In this day and age 500 GB is nothing: the cost difference is only about 2K anyway. No reason not to go 1 TB.
+ Better ram (1600 Mhz)
+ A better case? The Super Altas is no slouch, but you can do some boss cable management and have good expansion space with a higher-tier case. The Coolermaster 690 II , Coolermaster Storm Enforcer or (if possible) a Corsair 350D would be some really good cases for that build.


I Already have a 1 TB hard in the desktop I use now, I can format and use it in the new one.  Is the Raidmax Atlas case not good cause I'm like in a strict budget? Atleast for now...

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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2013, 02:51:08 pm »
And Yes! the new Redline Price Catalog is up! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AstBhhc_xqludFp0bDUzYjd1X0RjZVAwaGFPRWt1RFE&gid=3

Oh, Wait... A Hexa Core for 20000rs! WTF! What about the AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz Hexa Core??
Oh wait its crap  :\ http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4430-vs-AMD-FX-6300

What about other AMD's sold in Redline?
« Last Edit: July 28, 2013, 03:02:27 pm by ratazoit »

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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2013, 02:58:14 pm »
And Yes! the new Redline Price Catalog is up! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AstBhhc_xqludFp0bDUzYjd1X0RjZVAwaGFPRWt1RFE&gid=3

Oh, Wait... A Hexa Core for 20000rs! WTF! What about the AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz Hexa Core??
Not for gaming. It's weaker than a i3 3220 for gaming. Only good if you are doing some video editing on a budget.
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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2013, 03:04:19 pm »
Not for gaming. It's weaker than a i3 3220 for gaming. Only good if you are doing some video editing on a budget.

What about the other AMD's, not good either?

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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2013, 03:24:29 pm »
On frames per second the i3 3220 may be better than a FX-6300, but overall gameplay in games like Crysis 3 will be a lot smoother on the FX-6300.

What I can advice you is that if you are serious about gaming, go Core i5. Get a cheap, good quality (solid caps, etc) motherboard to go with that.

From my experience, I would go Core i3 with a graphics card up to GTX 650 Ti. Any bump from there should accompany a bump to Core i5.

Don't consider anything above 4GB RAM if you are on a budget. 1333Mhz value RAM is actually fine. The difference going for faster memory is marginal and insignificant.

About the PSU, Raidmax has been in business for over 25 years. They have a good reputation worldwide. If your budget doesn't permit a premium PSU, you will be safe with a Raidmax. No worries at all there.
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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2013, 03:52:51 pm »
Actualy even if you buy an i3 3220 with a GTX 760 its ok but never go for a GHTX 650 Ti. There may be GPU bottleneck but bottle necks are not always bad. You can upgrade CPU later and still you will get FPS increase. But i think it will be harder to sell a GTX 650Ti than a CPU later. ALso most games are GPU intensive and few games like Crysis 3 are CPU bound. many people here in GLK use i3 3220 with high end VGA cards. But if you have the money get an i5 but never spend on aging VGA cards and regret later. When i switched from 17" to 23" HD i had to sell my HD7770 and it was not easy. I lost 7K for just 3months use. 4GB 1600 kingston is available at EGS. Its faster than 6GB 1333 that i had rearlier in 2GB X 3. My windows rating for Ram is 7.5 wgich is same as CPU score so no bottleneck. Later add another 4GB. Good luck
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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2013, 04:01:08 pm »
Actualy even if you buy an i3 3220 with a GTX 760 its ok but never go for a GHTX 650 Ti. There may be GPU bottleneck but bottle necks are not always bad. You can upgrade CPU later and still you will get FPS increase. But i think it will be harder to sell a GTX 650Ti than a CPU later. ALso most games are GPU intensive and few games like Crysis 3 are CPU bound. many people here in GLK use i3 3220 with high end VGA cards. But if you have the money get an i5 but never spend on aging VGA cards and regret later. When i switched from 17" to 23" HD i had to sell my HD7770 and it was not easy. I lost 7K for just 3months use. 4GB 1600 kingston is available at EGS. Its faster than 6GB 1333 that i had rearlier in 2GB X 3. My windows rating for Ram is 7.5 wgich is same as CPU score so no bottleneck. Later add another 4GB. Good luck

I think I can go for the i5 4XXX series...

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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2013, 12:04:10 am »
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On frames per second the i3 3220 may be better than a FX-6300, but overall gameplay in games like Crysis 3 will be a lot smoother on the FX-6300.

What I can advice you is that if you are serious about gaming, go Core i5. Get a cheap, good quality (solid caps, etc) motherboard to go with that.

Don't consider anything above 4GB RAM if you are on a budget. 1333Mhz value RAM is actually fine. The difference going for faster memory is marginal and insignificant.

This. Best advice given. It's very easy for people to forget that games can be CPU-bound, too.This is precisely why I despise FPS charts - brute frames per second does NOT always mean more smoothness. Look at Far Cry 3 --> best example of good FPS and bad frametimes in this year.

If you're on an i3-level budget, get the FX-6300 and overclock it: with some decent cooling, you got yourself a good chip. If you don't plan to overclock, or have enough money for an i5, DO NOT CONSIDER any of the current-gen AMD FX chips. At the moment,they can't hold a candle to Intel's offerings as far as games are concerned.

Ignore graphics card "ageing". All graphics cards age. Even if you buy a flagship card now, you'll be outdated within 6 months. Modern mid-range graphics cards, like the 660, can comfortably handle 1080p: cards like 7950s and 760s can actually scale up to 2K - and those aren't even flagships. Let things age. The flow of time cannot be halted.

I personally don't place resale value high on my list of priorities when looking for components: the thing is to enjoy what you can get for your cash, not to cheapen it out by buying "resale value".

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Is the Raidmax Atlas case not good cause I'm like in a strict budget? Atleast for now.

The Altas is one of the best cases I've seen in the budget category (believe me, I've been through a fair amount of cheap cases). Nevertheless, it is not ideal for a rig as high-end as this, both for aesthetics and for thermal performance. Look for cases above 10K.

Buying a case is like buying a house. You splurge on something good and you have something that lasts you for the next three, four years.


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Re: Is this a good budget build?
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2013, 07:36:37 am »
Agree with Alchemist on buying a GTX 660 or HD 7870 but anything bellow that for a 23" is a waste. Also grphic cards you can not use for more than 1.5-2 yrs now. It will be outdated but if you are strict on budget and bought a GTX 650Ti trust me you will regret. For me cases are for looks. You will get tired of its beauty in a month unless you are a show off. But GPU will give you the thrill of gaming with max settings and games like Metro last light on max blew my mind off. GTX 650s will be totall crap in 1 year. GTX 660 or abouve you may be able to play atleast medium settings untill end of 2014. CPUs reletively dnt loose value like that. Look at i5 2500K still it can compete with 4th gen i5 4430. Due to mother board compatibility issues there will always be people looking for old gen used CPUs for them to upgrade.
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