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Title: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on February 21, 2020, 08:45:00 am
HI All

i though of sharing my HDR gaming experience with you so that you will know what you are getting in to.  most importantly as of now (21/02/2020) if you are going to get a monitor that support HDR  my suggestion is to wait a bit more. the reason is HDMI 2.1 is on the way where it support g-sync, 4K @ 120 Hz. but since this is not yet implemented in PC monitors officially waiting for that to happen is a good idea while the prices keeps dropping as well.

now for those who like me already have a monitor that support g-sync as well as HDR, based on the game we need to sacrifice either HDR or g-sync. so in my personal experience sacrificing g-sync is ok for better color as well as shadow experience within the game.

currently for most of the games that support HDR, you need a HDMI 2.0 cable if you are planning to play it at 4K @ 60 hz. i have learned this the hard way for games like BF1, HITMAN (2016) and HITMAN 2, Farcry 5 and Mass effect Andromeda since i had to get a HDMI 2.0 cable. none of the games that i have mentioned did not allowed the HDMI to be turned on while i was in DP (display port 1.4 cable )connection.  the reason why is this is IMO consoles and the TV market support HDMI over DP standard. in fact all the best HDR supported TV's do not have a DP connection. so what this means for you? depend on the game you need to change the cable  if you are playing games on PC with a HDR supported monitor  to get HDR!  (N)

so far there are few games that supported HDR over DP connection. and as of now they are for me is Gears 5 and Shadow of the tomb raider. this is the best scenario as i have HDR and g-sync at the same time :yes:   i have some other games that i'm yet to play like COD WWII, Darksiders 3 and Metro Exodus. i will update this thread as and when i play those so that you will know what cable is needed. the sad thing is HDR is the same for DP and HDMI yet games are implemented with HDMI in mind. i hope this trend will go away as times goes by so that the PC gamers like me don't have to change the cables  ;D

and that is exactly why i'm letting you know as i started this , wait until HDMI 2.1 is in effect for PC monitors and then get a monitor so that you  don't have the change the cables nor sacrifice g-sync.  (Y)
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on February 23, 2020, 10:27:35 am
Mass effect  Andromeda :- HDR is working properly when the in-game HDR setting is off !  when enabled you get a washed out SDR rendering.

COD WWII:- works perfectly with both HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.4  so the obvious choice is DP 1.4 with HDR and g-sync enabled.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on March 01, 2020, 03:20:49 pm
Metro Exodus :- HDR working fine along with DLSS and ray tracing for both HDMI and DP connections.  but for me in order to get it in game i had to change resolution from default 4K to a lesser value. when done the HDR rendering starts. after that need to change the resolution back to 4k since i could play the game in 4k with RT set to high and textures set to ultra. all works in DX12. so i guess the HDR implementation is  buggy compared to shadow of tomb raider which also has DLSS and RT. somehow the in game gamma correction is not working properly it seems. also this game dose not offer HDR calibration.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on April 01, 2020, 08:50:41 am

Final fantasy XV for windows :- seems the game is  auto detecting HDR and if so allows you to calibrate the HDR brightness. make sure the value you are putting is equal to the max supported by your monitor/TV.
Assassins creed origins: - yet another game that demands you have HDMI 2.0 connectivity in place in order for HDR to work.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on April 06, 2020, 11:31:29 am
farcry 5:- after testing with both HDR 10 and sc HDR the conclusion is you are better off with both provided your monitor is still doing the HDR work to some extent. in HDR 10 your color saturation get hurts badly while sc HDR downplay the darkness and brightness. so the game dose not properly implement HDR at all even though it provide calibration of the HDR brightness. 

this game did not worked when it comes to HDR setting with DP 1.4 , yet i found a post in toms hardware where a person is enabling HDR with DP. i need to check this out. with HDMI it works fine.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on April 12, 2020, 11:07:09 pm
AC origins:- Game requires that you have a proper HDMI connection in order to enable HDR  (N). you are allowed to calibrate the HDR brightness. the paper white brightness directly co relate with how the colors have that pop up visibility. just for the record, BD movies have that amount set to 120 so do not go bellow that mark.  keep  that at 120 as a minimum value and then adjust the other slider to fit with your screen specs for nits. once done see the outcome simply by not looking at the picture provided, rather run the in game benchmark so that you are satisfied with your HDR adjustments. so yeah i had to do that couple of times until i was satisfied with the outcome.  but its good because then you do not have to worry about in game HDR rendering.  (Y)
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on April 21, 2020, 08:43:16 am
AC Odyssey:-  i cant believe this but its the truth. this game support HDR only via a HDMI connection  (N).
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on May 26, 2020, 11:18:19 am
Devil may cry 5:- as long as you have windows 10 HDR enabled,  HDR is on within the game. there is no internal setting that toggles HDR. you can calibrate brightness and darkness as well.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on June 26, 2020, 11:29:22 am
i have installed windows 10 may 2020 update and nvidia 451.48 driver.  whats important about the windows update is that it comes with WDDM 2.7—that's Windows Display Driver Model 2.7. the NVIDIA driver on the other hand is the first fully-certified DirectX 12 Ultimate drivers with support  to WDDM 2.7. 

so as a test i have run shadow of tomb raider and this time i did not have to perform any workarounds. for the first time for me the game is detecting HDR on the launch and working fine.  (Y)
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: jude725 on July 11, 2020, 01:23:47 pm
you doing all this on the rig on your sig?
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on July 22, 2020, 02:44:51 pm
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on August 09, 2020, 11:42:07 am
Farcry new dawn:- same as Farcry 5.  (N) wonder when will Ubisoft learns to support  DP connections.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on December 21, 2020, 08:41:51 am
Monster hunter world:- works fine with both DP and HDMI. so i thought Capcom knows about HDR implementation. i was wrong. below is the reason

Resident evil 2 remake:- HDR works only with HDMI. and compared with  shadow of tomb raider , this HDR implementation is a bit poor in terms of proper dark black and colors popping out.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on January 02, 2021, 12:14:02 am
Resident evil 3 remake:- HDR requires HDMI cable.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on January 10, 2021, 10:15:33 am
Resident evil 7:- HDR support is only via HDMI.
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on March 29, 2021, 11:41:48 pm
ghost recon break point work fine with HDMI only
Title: Re: HDR gaming
Post by: csm1o1 on April 01, 2021, 03:14:31 pm
ok. I found the issue as to why i was not able to play most of the games with HDR via DP 1.4
its because my monitor had a default setting of over clocking it at 4k to 144hz. as soon as i have set it off  i was able to play Facry 5 as well as RE3 with HDR enabled over DP 1.4. in fact even Nvidia control panel did not allow me to add a custom resolution due to this.