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Offbeat => Hardware / Peripherals => Topic started by: jude725 on July 20, 2019, 01:38:15 pm

Title: Time to move to Ryzen?
Post by: jude725 on July 20, 2019, 01:38:15 pm
I was an intel fan from the beginning -  beceause AMD always had something behind. On Athlon age its the heat, after the performance and critically low single core performance.

Since now the multi threading is a thing and more and more apps benefit from more cores and threads, with the Ryzen 3000 series being head to head with intel, (+ pcie 4.0 on x570s) is it the time to drop intel and move to amd? my next target upgrade was to go to 9600k with a z390 but, now having second thoughts on 3600x with a x570,

open for discussion  :)
Title: Re: Time to move to Ryzen?
Post by: EGS on July 25, 2019, 11:50:51 pm
I thought i5-9600K was step ahead vs the processor speed. PCI-E 4 is one that needs to be looked in to.
Title: Re: Time to move to Ryzen?
Post by: jude725 on July 31, 2019, 10:18:42 pm
But the thread count makes 3600x a beast in day to day works. In games its only 2-3 fps difference in majority of the titles. 9600k has more single core performance though

PCIE 4.0, do we actually saturate the full 3.0 x16 bandwidth? even at a RTX 2080 Ti
Title: Re: Time to move to Ryzen?
Post by: EGS on August 06, 2019, 11:54:19 pm
But the thread count makes 3600x a beast in day to day works. In games its only 2-3 fps difference in majority of the titles. 9600k has more single core performance though

PCIE 4.0, do we actually saturate the full 3.0 x16 bandwidth? even at a RTX 2080 Ti

Even Ryzen 3600 n 3600x has single core boost and all cores do not give the same performance, But the PCIE 4.0 will make big difference. Its not only for the GPU but for HDD n SSD mainly for SSD it will make a big difference.
Title: Re: Time to move to Ryzen?
Post by: BLu3HaZe on August 23, 2019, 06:51:14 pm
But the thread count makes 3600x a beast in day to day works. In games its only 2-3 fps difference in majority of the titles. 9600k has more single core performance though

PCIE 4.0, do we actually saturate the full 3.0 x16 bandwidth? even at a RTX 2080 Ti

You've pretty much nailed it on the advantages, don't even see much discussion to continue on this :) Seems you've made up your mind well from the first post itself.

Overall, the AMD platform is much better than current Intel stuff. Availability and markup is the only problem. I've had and built Intel systems from the day I can remember and only have ever taken apart two AMDs, one Duron and a Athlon XP but was trying to put together a Ryzen system since it's so good from 7.7 but so far no luck, missing pieces within a reasonable budget.

Also, PCIe 4.0 is geared more towards NVMe storage than GPUs. With high prices and also the crazy heat from ultra high speed NVMe drives, doubt we'll see it becoming a common thing in our part of the world at least for a couple of years. Heck, even SATA SSDs are still quite new to most people while I got a 120GB MLC drive in 2013 for only $95 on sale even, down from US.

About GPU bandwidth, check out these two articles, great reads!

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pci-express-4-0-performance-scaling-radeon-rx-5700-xt/23.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-pci-express-scaling/6.html

Nobody is going to run a 2080 Ti at 1080p, while any practical resolution sees a drop of less than ~2% with the best gaming GPU in the world, at PCIe 3.0 x8 so no, we definitely don't saturate v3 and AMD only raised the bar higher with v4.. So X570 chipset is IMO overkill for a 3600/X, maybe with a 3800X and above? I'm looking for a decent B450 without VRM doublers myself, to couple with a 3600.