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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2017, 04:58:11 am »
We'll have boards and processors in stock by late March.

Any mATX boards?

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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2017, 10:55:17 am »
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« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2017, 08:15:36 pm »
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« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2017, 10:36:44 pm »
Pretty impressive, IPC is about Haswell-ish level, my only concern is the issue with high frequency RAM. Overall AMD has nailed it, pretty sure their R3 & R5 Series are going to nail the average consumer level market.
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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2017, 11:05:44 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks people are going to be confused as hell? The 3,5,7 sequence is going to mess with a lot of brains.
Leaving that aside, I'm really excited for the release!

I know it's too late but, Let's say you wanna buy a i5 CPU and obviously you wanna look what AMD offers right? You see their line up and they have something called R5 and prices are the same as well. So you do some digging and find some benchmarks of i5 vs R5 and what do you see? R5 competing with i7 (may be bit below i7) for the same price as i5. What would you buy?

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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2017, 11:43:40 pm »
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.
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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2017, 12:25:17 am »
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.

out of the games that i saw the ryzen chip is down by say 10 to 15 fps on average.
but this is not about Intel processor Vs. AMD processor, it is about bang for the buck, this series (R7) is geared towards content creators, streamers and enthusiasts, Average gamers must stay away from this and go for kaby lake I5 or maybe wait for the R5 and R3 series.
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« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2017, 12:43:00 am »
out of the games that i saw the ryzen chip is down by say 10 to 15 fps on average.
but this is not about Intel processor Vs. AMD processor, it is about bang for the buck, this series (R7) is geared towards content creators, streamers and enthusiasts, Average gamers must stay away from this and go for kaby lake I5 or maybe wait for the R5 and R3 series.

R5 n R3 will not hv these changes since they too r to be released in few months. Also for those creators all type its standard apps so no issues. Will be ideal for WS users.
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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2017, 07:51:54 am »
Expect these to cost slightly more than the equivalently priced Intel parts. Intel has a policy where they maintain global MSRP (hence the $360 7700K costing almost exactly the same here). I'm not sure AMD will have the same, so usual component pricing (MSRP +20%) would apply, so a Ryzen 7 1700 would cost somewhere around 55-60k.


If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?

Otherwise when Intel drops prices which they will eventually, they will give better price to performance benefit. At least in srilankan context.
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« Reply #70 on: March 03, 2017, 09:22:48 am »
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.

Nice to see that you are not talking shit about amd. At the same time you can't tell it takes 9-12 months. Do you have any source regarding that ? If you checked the AMA on reddit with Lisa you ll get a better idea. Also there are seems to be few bugs to be sorted out and MB manufactures are working on bios updates as we speak.

If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?

Otherwise when Intel drops prices which they will eventually, they will give better price to performance benefit. At least in srilankan context.


Intel did drop their prices and don't expect them to release it further.

It's come down for this for now till they sort out those bugs. You can buy 4 core i7 7700k cpu and get 10 more fps in games (1080p) but weaker in all other areas (Including 1440p and 4K gaming). Or you can buy r7 1700 where u get 8 cores for the same price or less where it's better almost everywhere but 10 less fps on 1080p gaming.
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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2017, 09:27:25 am »
If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?
Not unless there's a market demand for 10k units a month.
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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2017, 09:54:25 am »
Not unless there's a market demand for 10k units a month.

Fair enough i guess. Maybe if enough people shift to AMD,you guys would probably be able to convince them.

BTW when can we see a price reduction in intel processors? Some of European retailers have already dropped prices.
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« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2017, 10:19:51 am »
BTW when can we see a price reduction in intel processors? Some of European retailers have already dropped prices.

I don't think this is in the hands of the retailer. It's up to the distributor to reduce the cost.
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Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
« Reply #74 on: March 03, 2017, 10:23:55 am »
I don't think this is in the hands of the retailer. It's up to the distributor to reduce the cost.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3176507/hardware/amds-ryzen-processor-forces-hefty-price-cuts-from-intel.html
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-reacting-to-amd-ryzen-apparently-cutting-prices-on-core-i7

Not sure about the reliability of above sources though, but they do report that intel has responded with hefty price cuts.

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