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Title: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 13, 2017, 09:07:15 am
New AMD processors will be out soon! Anyone excited?

(http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/5/6/56234_04_amd-ryzen-leaks-r7-1800x-costs-499-line-up-strong.jpg)

Expected local pricing and likely Intel equivalents added.

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X - 85k
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 65k - i7 6900K
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 55k
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X - 45k - i7 6800K
AMD Ryzen 5 1500 - 40k
AMD Ryzen 5 1400X - 35k - i7 7700K
AMD Ryzen 5 1300 - 30k - i7 7700
AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 25k - i5 7600k
AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 20k - i5 7500

Motherboards will be starting at around 15k for B350 and around 25k for X370. Both chipsets have overclocking support.

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 13, 2017, 09:25:56 am
Am I the only one who thinks people are going to be confused as hell? The 3,5,7 sequence is going to mess with a lot of brains.
Leaving that aside, I'm really excited for the release!
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 13, 2017, 09:27:26 am
They should have just gone with 4, 6 and 8. To match their core counts. Logic is hard.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Mr. Sunshine on February 13, 2017, 09:29:37 am
Hearing only good things - might be finally the year I upgrade my system completely.

Also. This weird naming thing has to stop, I just caught myself saying Ry-zen. :/
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 13, 2017, 12:19:34 pm
Will it be available on the global release day it self?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: JanithDeSilva on February 13, 2017, 08:47:12 pm
mitx mobos?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 15, 2017, 03:13:18 pm
Expected prices are almost too good to be true. Thank god i waited this long!
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Templar_blood on February 15, 2017, 09:49:57 pm
Thank god !
The Intel monopoly is finally over .

Now lets start selling stuff .
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 16, 2017, 09:40:57 am
Thank god !
The Intel monopoly is finally over .

Now lets start selling stuff .

I'm so tempted but I thinking of waiting for vega since my current CPU is decent.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: amjad33 on February 17, 2017, 06:12:31 pm
Leaked benchmark of Ryzen 5 1600X
https://videocardz.com/66065/first-cpu-z-screenshot-of-ryzen-cpu-leaked
Its just rumor at this point so take it with a grain of salt. If its proves to be true Intel is in for a whole lot of trouble.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 21, 2017, 05:12:38 pm
Leaked 1700x Benchmarks

(http://i.imgur.com/zw3zoyB.jpg)



MORE : http://imgur.com/a/VnE7y
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 21, 2017, 11:34:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/YEJGxFW.png)

source (https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5vbp1f/the_obligatory_cinebench_r15_graph_now_with_the/?st=izfu9jkl&sh=0804056d)
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 22, 2017, 12:37:43 pm
Time to throw my sandy i5. I've been waiting for this a long time. I hope they perform as these benchmarks say they are.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 22, 2017, 07:28:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/F8OoCC1.png)

how does this not break NDA?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 22, 2017, 07:45:27 pm
It's official boys!

Pre orders start February 22nd and cards ship March 2nd.

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 22, 2017, 07:49:32 pm
you beat me to it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/amd-launch-ryzen-52-more-ipc-eight-cores-for-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/amd-launch-ryzen-52-more-ipc-eight-cores-for-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 22, 2017, 07:51:55 pm
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/amd-ryzen-arrives-march-2-8-cores-16-threads-from-just-329/


A small bit of hope for those waiting for gaming benchmarks...

Quote
Per AMD's demonstrations, the Ryzen also beat the Intel chip in Handbrake video encoding and boasted somewhat better frame rates in Sniper Elite 4 at 4K
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 22, 2017, 07:54:26 pm
It's official boys!

Pre orders start February 22nd and cards ship March 2nd.


you beat me to it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/amd-launch-ryzen-52-more-ipc-eight-cores-for-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/amd-launch-ryzen-52-more-ipc-eight-cores-for-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd

(http://i.imgur.com/VfLILQ8.png)
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 22, 2017, 08:04:33 pm
Check linus video. 1700 beats 6800. More cores and low price.

AMD did it. After 13 years (I think) they have better CPU s than intel.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 22, 2017, 08:12:04 pm
Check linus video. 1700 beats 6800. More cores and low price.

AMD did it. After 13 years (I think) they have better CPU s than intel.

It's the beginning of a new Era my fellow techies, Let's embrace it with open arms!

Intel really needs a game plan for coffee-lake to bring their a**es up again.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 22, 2017, 09:26:52 pm
There is no official release date for R5 series right ? That sucks. R5 range is the sweet-spot for gamers.

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 22, 2017, 10:28:19 pm
There is no official release date for R5 series right ? That sucks. R5 range is the sweet spot for gamers.



Apparently they might be coming towards the end of the year :/
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 22, 2017, 11:10:36 pm
Apparently they might be coming towards the end of the year :/

Yeah! I saw! That fxxxxxg sux. The above high end range is overkill for most machines. R5 is what we want. Even the cheapest R7 would be close to 60k if not more right ?.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 22, 2017, 11:20:02 pm
Yeah! I saw! That fxxxxxg sux. The above high end range is overkill for most machines. R5 is what we want. Even the cheapest R7 would be close to 60k if not more right ?.

More like 45-50k. cheaper than 7700k
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 22, 2017, 11:24:07 pm
More like 45-50k. cheaper than 7700k

Cheapest R7 processor is USD 329 which is approximately LKR 49000/-. So when it comes to SriLankan shops it would be at least 8K-10K more, isn't that how pricing works ?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 22, 2017, 11:30:31 pm
See, in zero's pricing above he has listed R7 1700 to be 55K. That estimation was based on leaked pricing which priced R7 1700 at $319. Now that they have released the official pricing as $329, the Sri Lankan price should be somewhere around 59k at least.

I am not a math genuis, so I d be more than happy to be corrected here.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: JanithDeSilva on February 23, 2017, 01:03:58 am
See, in zero's pricing above he has listed R7 1700 to be 55K. That estimation was based on leaked pricing which priced R7 1700 at $319. Now that they have released the official pricing as $329, the Sri Lankan price should be somewhere around 59k at least.

I am not a math genuis, so I d be more than happy to be corrected here.
a 10usd increase wouldnt amass to a 4k increase
unless im wrong
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 23, 2017, 06:56:33 am
a 10usd increase wouldnt amass to a 4k increase
unless im wrong

Well yeah, it would still make it close to 57 right ? Not 45-50 as truckrice suggested.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 23, 2017, 08:53:06 am
Expect these to cost slightly more than the equivalently priced Intel parts. Intel has a policy where they maintain global MSRP (hence the $360 7700K costing almost exactly the same here). I'm not sure AMD will have the same, so usual component pricing (MSRP +20%) would apply, so a Ryzen 7 1700 would cost somewhere around 55-60k.

There is no official release date for R5 series right ? That sucks. R5 range is the sweet-spot for gamers.
For gamers, I would suggest looking at the R3 range instead of the R5 range. The R3 1300X would be the equivalent of a i5 7600K for around 25k with a good overclockable gaming motherboard going for around 20k. That saving will allow you to upgrade from the GTX 1060/RX 480 range to a GTX 1070.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 23, 2017, 10:31:07 am
Well yeah, it would still make it close to 57 right ? Not 45-50 as truckrice suggested.

I didn't do the math tbh but thought since it's cheaper than 7700k it would cost less in SL too. Apparently not. Oh well one can dream.

Expect these to cost slightly more than the equivalently priced Intel parts. Intel has a policy where they maintain global MSRP (hence the $360 7700K costing almost exactly the same here). I'm not sure AMD will have the same, so usual component pricing (MSRP +20%) would apply, so a Ryzen 7 1700 would cost somewhere around 55-60k.
For gamers, I would suggest looking at the R3 range instead of the R5 range. The R3 1300X would be the equivalent of a i5 7600K for around 25k with a good overclockable gaming motherboard going for around 20k. That saving will allow you to upgrade from the GTX 1060/RX 480 range to a GTX 1070.

Why you always suggest CPUs which are bottom of the line? Yes they are good CPUs yes your intentions may be good but why nobody understand, when you are building a PC you need to think ahead not just how it perform today.

Anyway for gamers I would suggest R5. You get 7700k performance for 6500 price.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 23, 2017, 10:47:06 am
It's something that comes with working with so many different configurations all the time. The processor plays a much smaller  role in your PC than what Intels branding would have you belive.

Grim Raven is a classic example. If he had gone with a i5 2500K instead of his 2600k 5 years ago, he would have got a faster graphics card at the time, which would have increased his gaming performance significantly more than the i7 processor. Which would have saved him some money from a graphics card upgrade somewhere down the line, which would have enabled him to switch platforms probably a year ago. These things you will only pick up when you're in the industry for long enough.

I agree with you regarding Ryzen though. The price differences are small enough so you can bump up to the next level CPU without sacrificing your graphics card.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 23, 2017, 11:05:30 am
It's something that comes with working with so many different configurations all the time. The processor plays a much smaller  role in your PC than what Intels branding would have you belive.

Grim Raven is a classic example. If he had gone with a i5 2500K instead of his 2600k 5 years ago, he would have got a faster graphics card at the time, which would have increased his gaming performance significantly more than the i7 processor. Which would have saved him some money from a graphics card upgrade somewhere down the line, which would have enabled him to switch platforms probably a year ago. These things you will only pick up when you're in the industry for long enough.

I agree with you regarding Ryzen though. The price differences are small enough so you can bump up to the next level CPU without sacrificing your graphics card.

Agree with you. I've been building PCs since year 2000 as I can remember and I get what you are saying. But don't you think times have changed? Unlike those days CPU is actually playing a bigger part? (Comparing with 2011 where sandy bridge came out)

I advice people to build a PC where it can last long at least 5 years without a problem. (w/o GPU) If you short of money just wait find money and build one so you won't regret it after 1 or 2 years of use. I know there are so many factors to consider when it comes to finding money but that's my point of view.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 23, 2017, 12:00:26 pm

Grim Raven is a classic example. If he had gone with a i5 2500K instead of his 2600k 5 years ago, he would have got a faster graphics card at the time, which would have increased his gaming performance significantly more than the i7 processor.


Zero Don't judge people by the signature :P

My i7 2600k is a used processor which i bought two years back for Rs 20,000/-.

I am budget oriented person. I didnt have enough money to afford a super expensive computer anyway. My first processor was a second gen i3 and as you would see i bought the cheapest motherboard available back then which is a foxconn H61. Bought i7 2600k later.

But i do get your point, gpu is the most important component if you want to game!

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 23, 2017, 12:04:27 pm
Zero Don't judge people by the signature :P

My i7 2600k is a used processor which i bought two years back for Rs 20,000/-.

I am budget oriented person. I didnt have enough money to afford a super expensive computer anyway. My first processor was a second gen i3 and as you would see i bought the cheapest motherboard available back then which is a foxconn H61. Bought i7 2600k later.

But i do get your point, gpu is the most important component if you want to game!


Shush. I'm using you to illustrate a point. :P

This is something that happens regularly, so I was using your system as an example.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 23, 2017, 12:16:08 pm
Shush. I'm using you to illustrate a point. :P


Well  yeah, come to think of it my signature does sound ridiculous. What sort of an idiot would purchase an overclockable i7 2600k with an H61 Motherboard ?

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 23, 2017, 12:20:17 pm
Well  yeah, come to think of it my signature does sound ridiculous. What sort of an idiot would purchase an overclockable i7 2600k with an H61 Motherboard ?

You'd be surprised as to how common this is.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Rzee on February 23, 2017, 03:17:56 pm
You'd be surprised as to how common this is.

Some time back (2015) when I was taking quotations for my PC, TechZone pushed me so hard to buy a Asus Sabertooth z97 mark 2 with a i5 4590 and GTX 750ti. Just imagine how ridiculous that would look on a signature.  :stupid:
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 23, 2017, 08:08:09 pm
Am I the only one that feels all the hype has led to a big anti-climax as we have to wait another six months at least for more affordable processors. Six months is a long time in gamer's life cycle. And I v been waiting patiently for like two months now.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 23, 2017, 08:21:20 pm
Am I the only one that feels all the hype has led to a big anti-climax as we have to wait another six months at least for more affordable processors. Six months is a long time in gamer's life cycle. And I v been waiting patiently for like two months now.

Less than 6 months. The R5 line is supposed to be released in Q2, Which is between April and June. Should get some 6 Core 12 threaded goodness then. The R3 line is coming in the second half of the year though, so that might be 6 months or more.

We're getting information on VEGA on the 28th though
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 23, 2017, 09:06:27 pm
Yeah, well Q2 is ok I guess. I thought rest are expected towards latter part of the year which would have been a killer. 
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 03:49:23 pm
Why are you people worried about Sri Lankan price of these CPUs? You can always buy online if it's a durable thing. CPUs rarely get malfunctions. So you don't need Warranty. I always buy phones, Ram, memory cards, flash drives, even my SSD from eBay and ali express. Motherboard, HDDs and GPU, you should buy them locally.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 24, 2017, 04:55:04 pm
Why are you people worried about Sri Lankan price of these CPUs? You can always buy online if it's a durable thing. CPUs rarely get malfunctions. So you don't need Warranty. I always buy phones, Ram, memory cards, flash drives, even my SSD from eBay and ali express. Motherboard, HDDs and GPU, you should buy them locally.

Right now buying RAM online is more expensive than buying locally. And Ssds are usually the same price here.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 05:28:51 pm
Right now buying RAM online is more expensive than buying locally. And Ssds are usually the same price here.

 :no: Y you ly bro.

850 evo 500GB is only Rs.26800 on eBay and in Redline it's Rs. 33000
Rams are more expensive? You must be high.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz Kit is Rs.21300 on eBay and Rs.28000 on Redline.

Please bro. Enough. There are even more cheaper places, and I don't want to waste time searching to prove it.

I was talking about Ryzen CPU prices, that was the point. So Buying them online will be always cheaper. CPUs don't need Warranty. Unless you are a very very unlucky guy.  :D :D
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 24, 2017, 05:31:34 pm
:no: Y you ly bro.

850 evo 500GB is only Rs.26800 on eBay and in Redline it's Rs. 33000
Rams are more expensive? You must be high.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz Kit is Rs.21300 on eBay and Rs.28000 on Redline.

Please bro. Enough. There are even more cheaper places, and I don't want to waste time searching to prove it.

I was talking about Ryzen CPU prices, that was the point. So Buying them online will be always cheaper. CPUs don't need Warranty. Unless you are a very very unlucky guy.  :D :D

Anyway you can give a link for both?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Clerk_Kent on February 24, 2017, 05:42:49 pm
I wonder how their on board graphics are ? better than intel ?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on February 24, 2017, 05:48:00 pm
I wonder how their on board graphics are ? better than intel ?

No on board graphics in these.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 05:48:33 pm
Anyway you can give a link for both?

Really? That surprised?
SSD
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-500GB-SSD-850-EVO-Solid-State-Drive-500G-New-Fast-850EVO-/222285618228?hash=item33c1415c34%3Ag%3ADVwAAOSwd0BV3CmG&_trkparms=pageci%253A128338c8-fa86-11e6-a9d8-74dbd180744f%257Cparentrq%253A6fec503215a0a786c814b8a2ffec6091%257Ciid%253A3

RAM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/CORSAIR-Vengeance-LPX-16GB-2-x-8GB-288-Pin-DDR4-SDRAM-DDR4-3000-PC4-24000-RED-/191983740941?hash=item2cb31f680d%3Ag%3Aq4oAAOSwx6pYp0di&_trkparms=pageci%253Adc160405-fa8a-11e6-9d67-74dbd1a037b3%257Cparentrq%253A700bb01b15a0a6a8e7d5881cffeb51c9%257Ciid%253A2
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 05:51:14 pm

Btw, I'm planning to buy a Rx480, what are the frame rates and settings of your gameplay bro?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 06:09:21 pm
Meanwhile in Intel
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Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Clerk_Kent on February 24, 2017, 08:11:34 pm
No on board graphics in these.
Really , but there are VGA and HDMI ports on the MBs as i saw :|
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on February 24, 2017, 08:35:19 pm
Really , but there are VGA and HDMI ports on the MBs as i saw :|

Because motherboards with new AM4 socket (X300 A300 A320 B350 X370 chipsets) are not just for Ryzen CPUs. Their new Bristol Ridge APUs use the same socket. APUs have inbuilt graphics, that's why there are DVI and HDMI ports.  :yes:
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Arceus on February 24, 2017, 09:11:36 pm
Hey guys, when Intel drop their pricing to compete with Ryzen, you'll have to make a choice on which company you want to support. And Intel could have easily reduced their prices but they didn't, because they didn't have any competition.
Having some competition is always better for the consumer and if amd doesn't get a decent market share after this, they won't get another chance for a VERY long time,if ever.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Kando on February 24, 2017, 09:26:29 pm
Hey guys, when Intel drop their pricing to compete with Ryzen, you'll have to make a choice on which company you want to support. And Intel could have easily reduced their prices but they didn't, because they didn't have any competition.
Having some competition is always better for the consumer and if amd doesn't get a decent market share after this, they won't get another chance for a VERY long time,if ever.

I highly doubt they will drop that much. For example, the 500 usd Ryzen competes with the 1000$ Intel.

Intel cannot drop it by 500$ simply because it would make them lose face as a business.

However, they could release their next line of cpu's at a significantly lower price, and attribute it to some engineering "breakthrough"

But... What do I know? :p

Also. I'd like to remind everyone to please not double post (looking at you INSANITY). If you have anything to add, please edit your previous post.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: JanithDeSilva on February 24, 2017, 10:13:36 pm
Hey guys, when Intel drop their pricing to compete with Ryzen, you'll have to make a choice on which company you want to support. And Intel could have easily reduced their prices but they didn't, because they didn't have any competition.
Having some competition is always better for the consumer and if amd doesn't get a decent market share after this, they won't get another chance for a VERY long time,if ever.
This is the main reason i will get amd for my next pc upgrades
Competition is always good where its needed
Here intel has been taking the piss with the prices, and if amd gets a good market share it will force intel to reduce or to advance their technology
Hopefully amd can make a breakthrough in the laptop market aswell
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on February 25, 2017, 12:03:46 am
Zero, any news about the availability ?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 25, 2017, 12:11:32 am
Zero, any news about the availability ?
We'll have boards and processors in stock by late March.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: EGS on February 25, 2017, 01:05:43 pm
:no: Y you ly bro.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz Kit is Rs.21300 on eBay and Rs.28000 on R..

Please bro. Enough. There are even more cheaper places, and I don't want to waste time searching to prove it.

I was talking about Ryzen CPU prices, that was the point. So Buying them online will be always cheaper. CPUs don't need Warranty. Unless you are a very very unlucky guy.  :D :D

Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) LED only 23,500 with us
The AMD Ryzen 7 1700 USD price is 330 so local price will be around 59K
ASUS PRIME B350 will be around 18K
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: EGS on February 25, 2017, 01:09:42 pm
Really , but there are VGA and HDMI ports on the MBs as i saw :|

Some boards have and some models dont.  He has picked the ones dont have.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on February 26, 2017, 06:59:33 pm
Is there a price difference between motherboards also ?

I want an Aorus K5 for my AMD processor. Would the prices of Aorus Motherboard range remain same to those that were released for intel ?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on February 26, 2017, 09:17:45 pm
An Aorus K5 will cost around 30k
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: stolensun on March 02, 2017, 04:58:11 am
We'll have boards and processors in stock by late March.

Any mATX boards?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on March 02, 2017, 10:55:17 am
NDA lifts in 9 hours from now on I think.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on March 02, 2017, 08:15:36 pm
Reviews are here

https://videocardz.com/66826/amd-ryzen-7-review-roundup
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 02, 2017, 10:36:44 pm
Pretty impressive, IPC is about Haswell-ish level, my only concern is the issue with high frequency RAM. Overall AMD has nailed it, pretty sure their R3 & R5 Series are going to nail the average consumer level market.
The Hype train has now reached it's first stop out of three, Passengers are required to sit the f*ck down now until the train departs nearing the next release!
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on March 02, 2017, 11:05:44 pm
Am I the only one who thinks people are going to be confused as hell? The 3,5,7 sequence is going to mess with a lot of brains.
Leaving that aside, I'm really excited for the release!

I know it's too late but, Let's say you wanna buy a i5 CPU and obviously you wanna look what AMD offers right? You see their line up and they have something called R5 and prices are the same as well. So you do some digging and find some benchmarks of i5 vs R5 and what do you see? R5 competing with i7 (may be bit below i7) for the same price as i5. What would you buy?

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: EGS on March 02, 2017, 11:43:40 pm
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 03, 2017, 12:25:17 am
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.

out of the games that i saw the ryzen chip is down by say 10 to 15 fps on average.
but this is not about Intel processor Vs. AMD processor, it is about bang for the buck, this series (R7) is geared towards content creators, streamers and enthusiasts, Average gamers must stay away from this and go for kaby lake I5 or maybe wait for the R5 and R3 series.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: EGS on March 03, 2017, 12:43:00 am
out of the games that i saw the ryzen chip is down by say 10 to 15 fps on average.
but this is not about Intel processor Vs. AMD processor, it is about bang for the buck, this series (R7) is geared towards content creators, streamers and enthusiasts, Average gamers must stay away from this and go for kaby lake I5 or maybe wait for the R5 and R3 series.

R5 n R3 will not hv these changes since they too r to be released in few months. Also for those creators all type its standard apps so no issues. Will be ideal for WS users.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 03, 2017, 01:16:53 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5x3cvv/ryzen_review_mega_thread/deewsf3/?st=izsswqzy&sh=9d7195ef
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on March 03, 2017, 07:51:54 am
Expect these to cost slightly more than the equivalently priced Intel parts. Intel has a policy where they maintain global MSRP (hence the $360 7700K costing almost exactly the same here). I'm not sure AMD will have the same, so usual component pricing (MSRP +20%) would apply, so a Ryzen 7 1700 would cost somewhere around 55-60k.


If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?

Otherwise when Intel drops prices which they will eventually, they will give better price to performance benefit. At least in srilankan context.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: truckerice on March 03, 2017, 09:22:48 am
unfortunately for AMD Fans and Fortunately for Intel, as for Gamers at least for 1080p since the games hv been developed for Intel, Intel still leads in performance. So until new games or those current games are modified to take use of the Ryzen, Intel will be having the control.

These are based on the test results released as of now. Also to do changes it will take some time which can take up to 9-12m. AMD could hv worked with the gamer developers but at the same time they may hv feared that details would hv gone in to the other side.

Nice to see that you are not talking shit about amd. At the same time you can't tell it takes 9-12 months. Do you have any source regarding that ? If you checked the AMA on reddit with Lisa you ll get a better idea. Also there are seems to be few bugs to be sorted out and MB manufactures are working on bios updates as we speak.

If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?

Otherwise when Intel drops prices which they will eventually, they will give better price to performance benefit. At least in srilankan context.


Intel did drop their prices and don't expect them to release it further.

It's come down for this for now till they sort out those bugs. You can buy 4 core i7 7700k cpu and get 10 more fps in games (1080p) but weaker in all other areas (Including 1440p and 4K gaming). Or you can buy r7 1700 where u get 8 cores for the same price or less where it's better almost everywhere but 10 less fps on 1080p gaming.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on March 03, 2017, 09:27:25 am
If this is the case, we may not be able to get the true price to performance benefit of the AMD launch. Can't you guys convince AMD to adopt the same policy here ?
Not unless there's a market demand for 10k units a month.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on March 03, 2017, 09:54:25 am
Not unless there's a market demand for 10k units a month.

Fair enough i guess. Maybe if enough people shift to AMD,you guys would probably be able to convince them.

BTW when can we see a price reduction in intel processors? Some of European retailers have already dropped prices.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 03, 2017, 10:19:51 am
BTW when can we see a price reduction in intel processors? Some of European retailers have already dropped prices.

I don't think this is in the hands of the retailer. It's up to the distributor to reduce the cost.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on March 03, 2017, 10:23:55 am
I don't think this is in the hands of the retailer. It's up to the distributor to reduce the cost.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3176507/hardware/amds-ryzen-processor-forces-hefty-price-cuts-from-intel.html
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-reacting-to-amd-ryzen-apparently-cutting-prices-on-core-i7

Not sure about the reliability of above sources though, but they do report that intel has responded with hefty price cuts.

Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: B-MAN on March 05, 2017, 02:53:24 pm
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-8#post-38775732
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on March 05, 2017, 05:07:00 pm
http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3176507/hardware/amds-ryzen-processor-forces-hefty-price-cuts-from-intel.html
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-reacting-to-amd-ryzen-apparently-cutting-prices-on-core-i7

Not sure about the reliability of above sources though, but they do report that intel has responded with hefty price cuts.
All of those are based of WCCFs fail article about prices from Microcenter. Microcenter has always had prices 25-30% lower than MSRP, but with no warranty and store pickup only. Intel hasn't announced a price reduction and all major retailers are selling at the standard 5-10% below MSRP.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 05, 2017, 11:21:53 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5xj0n6/ryzen_reviewers_with_asus_crosshair_vi_got_bad/?st=izwz509r&sh=294b4b06
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Epoch on March 06, 2017, 09:03:12 pm
This might be of use to folks:
Some Ryzen chips & Adobe Lightroom perfomance:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Lightroom-CC-2015-8-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-910/ (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Lightroom-CC-2015-8-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-910/)
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 07, 2017, 01:23:28 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50&feature=youtu.be

Guy is scottish so you have to bear with the accent, but superb explanation.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on March 09, 2017, 05:47:37 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50&feature=youtu.be

Guy is scottish so you have to bear with the accent, but superb explanation.

Yup he is the only one who reviewed it correctly. All the other tubers' reviews were messed up. Performance per core per Mhz it's almost equal in both architectures. Most of those games they are reviewing aren't optimized for higher core count. Drivers and BIOS updates will make it perform even faster. This is just the beginning, there will be more Ryzen CPUs and future games will perform much better on Ryzen. Had enough of Intel shit. It's almost 6 years since Sandy bridge and I'm still playing latest games over 50fps with high settings. Didn't fall for Intel's generation traps because upgrading to a 6th gen ain't gonna give me any benefit. My next CPU will be a Ryzen for sure with a new GPU.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: amjad33 on March 09, 2017, 07:46:11 pm
Yep. I'm waiting for those R5 CPU's for upgrade.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on March 09, 2017, 08:28:10 pm
In depth review of gaming performance. Can't wait for the higher clocked lower end parts :D
http://www.techspot.com/review/1348-amd-ryzen-gaming-performance/
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on March 10, 2017, 01:44:52 pm
Guys, if you need these CPUs, they are now available here in Dubai, and each chip is at least 10k cheaper here. 1800X will cost you 82K Even with shipping. And This shop ships to Sri Lanka.  ;D ;D
https://gear-up.me/processors/amd-socket-am4.html
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on March 11, 2017, 03:08:55 pm
Hitler finds out about Ryzen :p

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p8JLBq4xoAw
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 16, 2017, 01:02:25 pm
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11202/amd-announces-ryzen-5-april-11th

AMD announces the R5 line-up. Processors for basic b*tches like you and I.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on March 16, 2017, 01:13:36 pm
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11202/amd-announces-ryzen-5-april-11th

AMD announces the R5 line-up. Processors for basic b*tches like you and I.

Hahaha.  Thanks for the update bro.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on March 20, 2017, 12:57:01 am
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/does-amd-have-a-quad-channel-16-core-32-thread-cpu-in-the-works.html

This is going to wreck the highest of the highest enthusiast market.
16 cores and 32 threads at only $999
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Epoch on March 20, 2017, 09:31:29 am
I've tired of the Hitler response skits but this was hilarious! Thanks for sharing that @GrimRaven :D
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: INSANITY on July 21, 2017, 03:10:54 pm
Why only AMD so expensive? pricing according to performance?  :no:
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on July 21, 2017, 09:41:18 pm
Why only AMD so expensive? pricing according to performance?  :no:

Expect these to cost slightly more than the equivalently priced Intel parts. Intel has a policy where they maintain global MSRP (hence the $360 7700K costing almost exactly the same here). I'm not sure AMD will have the same, so usual component pricing (MSRP +20%) would apply, so a Ryzen 7 1700 would cost somewhere around 55-60k.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on July 23, 2017, 12:20:12 pm
Hey, it says all ryzen processors are available on preorder. Do they take as long as Sapphire cards ? Is it possible to give us an exact time?

Waiting for a product after paying for it sucks big time.   
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on July 23, 2017, 12:36:02 pm
Hey, it says all ryzen processors are available on preorder. Do they take as long as Sapphire cards ? Is it possible to give us an exact time?

Waiting for a product after paying for it sucks big time.   
Around a week
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on July 26, 2017, 07:57:57 pm
Made the down-payment yesterday. As long as i can have them by the 5th of August it's fine. 

zero i pmd you, pls check.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 27, 2017, 09:52:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZifJ3DvumA

True 4 core for the price of an I3!!!
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on July 28, 2017, 08:17:41 am
Most online sites say you must get rams with frequencies above 2600 to get the best performance from ryzen processors  how true is it ?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: veek on July 28, 2017, 09:41:52 pm
true enough - main memory is slow and the CPU stalls waiting for data - which is why we have SMT/HT
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on July 30, 2017, 08:15:03 am
Got a call from Redline yesterday saying that the processor has arrived. For anyone who is wondering the ETA of AMD processors, that's pretty fast, only took three or four days.

 
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Noob miner 121 on August 02, 2017, 08:32:23 am
New AMD processors will be out soon! Anyone excited?

(http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/5/6/56234_04_amd-ryzen-leaks-r7-1800x-costs-499-line-up-strong.jpg)

Expected local pricing and likely Intel equivalents added.

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X - 85k
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - 65k - i7 6900K
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 55k
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X - 45k - i7 6800K
AMD Ryzen 5 1500 - 40k
AMD Ryzen 5 1400X - 35k - i7 7700K
AMD Ryzen 5 1300 - 30k - i7 7700
AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 25k - i5 7600k
AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 20k - i5 7500

Motherboards will be starting at around 15k for B350 and around 25k for X370. Both chipsets have overclocking support.


how are the prices now ???
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on August 02, 2017, 08:38:07 am

how are the prices now ???

Prices are similar, mid tier ones like R5 1500 and R5 1400 are cheaper in-fact. R7 1800x and R7 1700x are the only processors that are more expensive than the suggested prices. 
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on August 05, 2017, 06:56:10 am
I bought a Hyper x 2666 ram with an Aorus MB for my Ryzen processor. All is fine so far.

 However the ram only shows 2400mhz speed, eventhough it is meant to run at higher speeds. I know extra speed doesn't count for much, but is there a way I can get it to run at the speed which it meant to be run.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Zer0 on August 05, 2017, 08:45:08 am
Install the latest BIOS version and manually set the RAM to its rated speed. If you bought a system, this is generally done for you.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on August 05, 2017, 09:37:14 am
Yeah, your tech guys have updated it to the F3 Version which is the latest bios version that is shown in the Aorus K5 support page. They have also set the processor to 3.6 ghz, just the ram frequency which they haven't set to 2666
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on August 06, 2017, 12:35:57 pm
Install the latest BIOS version and manually set the RAM to its rated speed. If you bought a system, this is generally done for you.
Install the latest BIOS version and manually set the RAM to its rated speed. If you bought a system, this is generally done for you.

Well, from the Gigabyte Easy Tune, I can set the speed it to 2933 MHz, but when I set it to 2666 Mhz which is the rated speed, it shows as 2400Mhz. Is it risky to run the Hyper x 2933 Mhz?

Ram was bought from Nanotek though as your memory stock was over, except for the RGB one, the day I came to assemble the machine.


Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: Grim Raven on August 06, 2017, 12:38:18 pm
I set it back to 2400Mhz though, as I don't know whether it's safe to run it at 2933Mhz.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen Processors
Post by: stolensun on September 21, 2017, 08:59:24 pm
Any other places other than Redline or Barclays that sell Ryzen motherboards? So far I've only seen two choices of mATX boards.