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Offbeat => Hardware / Peripherals => Topic started by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 01:04:00 pm

Title: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 01:04:00 pm
well, redline priced it at 42K!. sweet jesus :-*..finally my wait is going to be over.
by god's grace I've avoided 970.

AND RECENT NEWS! - 380 is not just a re brand of 285 tonga chip, there are reports that AMD DID improve the chip (same story for 390 hawaii too) :-* :)

a 970 killer for 42K WITH 4 gigs of vram which YOU COULD USE ALL 'DEM GIGS IN FULL SPEED....unlike some crooks' cards where they betray you.

I've even thought of going for 390...but 8 GIGS is just too much  ;Dand unnecessary for me as my upgrade plans for 1440 failed. for-get 4K. :D

I pray for AMD to regain it's market share soon, other wise those green crooky cockroaches would introduce GT 1040 for 200K!

I'm not an amd fan, but here's another story, AMD shared it's code for TRESS FX (hair simulation tech used in tombraider etc) so the greenies were able to optimize their drivers for them. but when their's hairworks tech used in witcher 3..they refused to share the code with amd,so amd couldn't optimize their drivers for witcher 3 hairworks. nvidia cards, they themselves suffered heavily from hairworks :D :D :D that's completely a different story.


this is how crooked nvidia are. they do pay gpu comparison sites, they pay trolls to anti-amd posts, this is very obvious if you take a look at GPU boss comparisons ;D

finally AMD is coming with a deathblow..I hope it lands well.

edit : there are reports of 380X too, with tonga XT chip and possibly with 6 gigs of vram...if that's true. i'll wait for it, not too keen for the extra 2gigs from 380 but for the extra cores ;D and it would be priced around 50K i guess?
but no official confirmations yet. :(


Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 11, 2015, 01:44:26 pm
well, redline priced it at 42K!. sweet jesus :-*..finally my wait is going to be over.
by god's grace I've avoided 970.

AND RECENT NEWS! - 380 is not just a re brand of 285 tonga chip, there are reports that AMD DID improve the chip (same story for 390 hawaii too) :-* :)

a 970 killer for 42K WITH 4 gigs of vram which YOU COULD USE ALL 'DEM GIGS IN FULL SPEED....unlike some crooks' cards where they betray you.

I've even thought of going for 390...but 8 GIGS is just too much  ;Dand unnecessary for me as my upgrade plans for 1440 failed. for-get 4K. :D

I pray for AMD to regain it's market share soon, other wise those green crooky cockroaches would introduce GT 1040 for 200K!

I'm not an amd fan, but here's another story, AMD shared it's code for TRESS FX (hair simulation tech used in tombraider etc) so the greenies were able to optimize their drivers for them. but when their's hairworks tech used in witcher 3..they refused to share the code with amd,so amd couldn't optimize their drivers for witcher 3 hairworks. nvidia cards, they themselves suffered heavily from hairworks :D :D :D that's completely a different story.


this is how crooked nvidia are. they do pay gpu comparison sites, they pay trolls to anti-amd posts, this is very obvious if you take a look at GPU boss comparisons ;D

finally AMD is coming with a deathblow..I hope it lands well.

edit : there are reports of 380X too, with tonga XT chip and possibly with 6 gigs of vram...if that's true. i'll wait for it, not too keen for the extra 2gigs from 380 but for the extra cores ;D and it would be priced around 50K i guess?
but no official confirmations yet. :(




I thought the 3xx series were all re brands? I think I read that somewhere. Just with slightly faster clock speeds. The only "new" card would be the Fury series, which is meant to compete with the titan.

If they are indeed rebrands, I don't think the 380 will beat the 970 considering not even the 290x beat the 970 in most games.

Although, this is just what I've seen/read in comparisons.

I definitely want AMD to succeed though, don't want nVidia to monopolize the GPU market.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: dimuthu on June 11, 2015, 03:00:03 pm
I definitely want AMD to succeed though, don't want nVidia to monopolize the GPU market.

This  (Y)  (Y)  (Y)

That said, I have read in a couple of tech blogs and they all were saying that 3xx series is a rebrand with a little bit increase in GPU power. Couple of blogs were quoting a leaked hardware IDs, driver IDs etc.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 11, 2015, 03:15:55 pm
this is how crooked nvidia are. they do pay gpu comparison sites, they pay trolls to anti-amd posts, this is very obvious if you take a look at GPU boss comparisons ;D
Who on earth use GPU boss to compare graphics cards :D
And FYI,
www.techpowerup.com/img/15-06-09/125a.jpg
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 03:21:48 pm
I thought the 3xx series were all re brands? I think I read that somewhere. Just with slightly faster clock speeds. The only "new" card would be the Fury series, which is meant to compete with the titan.

If they are indeed rebrands, I don't think the 380 will beat the 970 considering not even the 290x beat the 970 in most games.

Although, this is just what I've seen/read in comparisons.

I definitely want AMD to succeed though, don't want nVidia to monopolize the GPU market.

Yes, it has been said apart from "fury" (fiji) series, all 3xx's are just 2xx's with more memory,bumped clocks and new badges.

now it's reported that amd actually improved the chip design too, i'm not sure in what "aspects" they "improved". only benchmarks will tell.fingers crossed. even if they don't impress that much, i'll personally go for 380 or 380x if that's true. the pricing is just making me to drool.
 
hawaii chips (290s) are even getting new name after improving them (they are codenamed as Grenada in 390s)

not only those, even older 260,270 (pictrian, bonaire) are said to be improved too.

here is the article,
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37967-amd-r9-r380-and-r390-have-respun-chips

only thing stays same is the 250 :D

I didn't mean 380 as a 970 killer in a pure performance view but in a {performance-hard.earned.rupee}  view ;D (Y)

but improved 380X or 390 can be the real 970 killers. we just need to wait and see how AMD improved them apart from ample amount of memory and crazy clocks spds :D :D   
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Alucard on June 11, 2015, 04:04:11 pm
Jesus NITRO!!!!
Why in hell would they name it nitro???
I liked the older names.
Dual X, Vapor X, Tri X and my personal favourite .. TOXIC  ;D
Maybe there'll be a toxic version or a one similar in performance that'll outshine other cards in the same line.. Just have to wait though
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: unix on June 11, 2015, 04:40:18 pm

a 970 killer for 42K WITH 4 gigs of vram which YOU COULD USE ALL 'DEM GIGS IN FULL SPEED....unlike some crooks' cards where they betray you.

I've even thought of going for 390...but 8 GIGS is just too much  ;Dand unnecessary for me as my upgrade plans for 1440 failed. for-get 4K. :D

I pray for AMD to regain it's market share soon, other wise those green crooky cockroaches would introduce GT 1040 for 200K!

I'm not an amd fan, but here's another story, AMD shared it's code for TRESS FX (hair simulation tech used in tombraider etc) so the greenies were able to optimize their drivers for them. but when their's hairworks tech used in witcher 3..they refused to share the code with amd,so amd couldn't optimize their drivers for witcher 3 hairworks. nvidia cards, they themselves suffered heavily from hairworks :D :D :D that's completely a different story.

this is how crooked nvidia are. they do pay gpu comparison sites, they pay trolls to anti-amd posts, this is very obvious if you take a look at GPU boss comparisons ;D

finally AMD is coming with a deathblow..I hope it lands well.

Dude seriously..

(http://holdinholden.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/calm.jpg)

There is no reason to say 8GB is TOO MUCH for 1080p now. It can be utilized for higher texture settings.

And have the backbone to say you are an AMD fan at least. We can see how thrilled you are :D

It won't be a deathblow. There is a huge crowd that have reasons who wont go RED way until they fix their issues.

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 11, 2015, 04:48:48 pm
And have the backbone to say you are an AMD fan at least.
+1
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 05:29:39 pm
no dude, they are jiggling beyond my control (I have flappy, juicy mantits ;D) not because of I'm an AMD fan, but because of I just missed 970 betrayal (that's what i call it) and guess what...an AMD card is going to available with a "4 FULL gigs"  ;D for just 42K!
that's why I'm thrilled my friend, because even faster 970 would struggle if past 3.5 mark. you yourself said,

There is no reason to say 8GB is TOO MUCH for 1080p now. It can be utilized for higher texture settings.


then how it would feel to be crippled at 3.5 gb on a faster 970? :D


And have the backbone to say you are an AMD fan at least. We can see how thrilled you are :D
+1

I wasn't "fan" of either of them. but now, yes, as you said I'm officially announcing that I've just became an AMD fan, even though i owned a single amd card and two green cards yet, :D

or

these replies have something to do with the 780 and 760s in both of your systems :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 05:41:20 pm
let's not make a red-green war. i'm just saying a "full" 4 gb card is going to be available at 42K. that's all. ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 05:45:06 pm
oh wait, there is even cheaper 370 available for 32K! but i doubt that old ass pictrian would be fast enough to make that 4 gig worth.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: unix on June 11, 2015, 06:04:53 pm
Dude I'm a green team fan and my work depends on their hardware. I've been in this forum sometime and people in here might know that.

We all know Nvidia is bullshitting though prices and that 970 marketing was horrible thing. No deny in that.

970 is past. This is like mocking earlier gen iphone whenever new samsung phone is released. meh 970 was a blast when it was released. For 1080p it will be the same for next few major AAA releases despite of it's 0.5GB issue. So in the end, you people with 4GB mindset and 970 guys will be playing the same game with minimal difference of FPS give or take a few.

When r9 270 was available for 30K I went for a GTX760 for 44K when I could easily get a r9 280x with more performance for another Rs.4000 added which Kauboy asked me to do like 3 or 4 times at RL that day.

People measure everything with money. Price and value are different. For someone feature set that being offered from green team is much more valuable than that 10 fps increase within that budget. For other raw performance is everything so they go with AMD. Like that.

Remember people price and value are different and subjective.
Enjoy your card when you get it.

But we don't hate AMD. We love them more because every time they introduce cards, nvidia does price cuts.. win win :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 11, 2015, 06:41:10 pm
Dude I'm a green team fan and my work depends on their hardware. I've been in this forum sometime and people in here might know that.

We all know Nvidia is bullshitting though prices and that 970 marketing was horrible thing. No deny in that.

970 is past. This is like mocking earlier gen iphone whenever new samsung phone is released. meh 970 was a blast when it was released. For 1080p it will be the same for next few major AAA releases despite of it's 0.5GB issue. So in the end, you people with 4GB mindset and 970 guys will be playing the same game with minimal difference of FPS give or take a few.

When r9 270 was available for 30K I went for a GTX760 for 44K when I could easily get a r9 280x with more performance for another Rs.4000 added which Kauboy asked me to do like 3 or 4 times at RL that day.

People measure everything with money. Price and value are different. For someone feature set that being offered from green team is much more valuable than that 10 fps increase within that budget. For other raw performance is everything so they go with AMD. Like that.

Remember people price and value are different and subjective.
Enjoy your card when you get it.

But we don't hate AMD. We love them more because every time they introduce cards, nvidia does price cuts.. win win :D

Well said. We don't hate AMD at all. In fact I have recommended AMD cards for many of the systems built here. As Unix said price and value are different and subjective.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 11, 2015, 08:16:07 pm
Agreed and peace treaty signed.

if you need all 'dem CUDA cores...say Kudos to green.

if you just want to swing with Geralt and fry an egg....come to the red side! ;D
ceasefire commences now!
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 09:42:00 am

a 970 killer for 42K WITH 4 gigs of vram which YOU COULD USE ALL 'DEM GIGS IN FULL SPEED....unlike some crooks' cards where they betray you.


Just saying.

R9 380 doesn't kill the GTX970 just because it has 4GBs of VRAM. Not even close to it. It's a tad faster than a GTX960. Even that's a maybe. Just get your facts right.

(https://unclebobtheconcernedcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/facepalm_black_tile_7_1024x1024.jpg)

Honestly I'm disappointed in AMD the way they release new products. That coming from a AMD fan. A massive one.

I have no clue what you have in mind but the performance you get with the 3XX SERIES is not significantly higher than the previous Gen. They should come up with some woodoo shit.

And yes.

I thought the 3xx series were all re brands? I think I read that somewhere. Just with slightly faster clock speeds. The only "new" card would be the Fury series, which is meant to compete with the titan.



Almost all the new AMD cards are rebranded. Plus I hate their new naming scheme. Nitro. WTF!
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Sachi911 on June 12, 2015, 10:09:41 am
facepalm. again, get your facts right. xD and btw. amd have to step up their tessellation performance before they acquire nvidia hairworks someway. amd cards cant keep up with nvidia with high tessellation which is what hairworks is mainly consist of. dont be a fanboy
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on June 12, 2015, 10:10:23 am
NITRO  :no: NERO  :yes:
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 10:14:18 am
facepalm. again, get your facts right. xD and btw. amd have to step up their tessellation performance before they acquire nvidia hairworks someway. amd cards cant keep up with nvidia with high tessellation which is what hairworks is mainly consist of. dont be a fanboy

There are 2 kinds of fanboys.

1) I have no clue but I'm a fanboy because most of the others are.
     eg: most of the apple and Samsung users.

2) I know about why I like it and Im a fan of what it offers me for the price so I'm a fan of it.
    eg: Rest of the world.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Sachi911 on June 12, 2015, 10:18:16 am
There are 2 kinds of fanboys.

1) I have no clue but I'm a fanboy because most of the others are.
     eg: most of the apple and Samsung users.

2) I know about why I like it and Im a fan of what it offers me for the price so I'm a fan of it.
    eg: Rest of the world.

i say too much of 1 kind. :V
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 12, 2015, 10:26:05 am
Just saying.

R9 380 doesn't kill the GTX970 just because it has 4GBs of VRAM. Not even close to it. It's a tad faster than a GTX960. Even that's a maybe. Just get your facts right.

(https://unclebobtheconcernedcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/facepalm_black_tile_7_1024x1024.jpg)

Honestly I'm disappointed in AMD the way they release new products. That coming from a AMD fan. A massive one.

I have no clue what you have in mind but the performance you get with the 3XX SERIES is not significantly higher than the previous Gen. They should come up with some woodoo shit.

And yes. 

Almost all the new AMD cards are rebranded. Plus I hate their new naming scheme. Nitro. WTF!

Honestly, I'm a huge AMD Fan as well. And more than their hardware, their biggest disappointment is Drivers. When was the last time we got a non-beta driver?
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 10:30:04 am
Honestly, I'm a huge AMD Fan as well. And more than their hardware, their biggest disappointment is Drivers. When was the last time we got a non-beta driver?

True but their beta drivers works better than WHQL

._.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 12, 2015, 11:36:27 am
True but their beta drivers works better than WHQL

._.

Really? For most games the improvements weren't that great (Talking purely in terms of FPS increase).

GTA V I got around 2-3 FPS.

Only Witcher 3 saw a Significant improvement, got around 5-8 extra frames there.

Or maybe it's just because I'm using an older card :/
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 11:48:44 am
Really? For most games the improvements weren't that great (Talking purely in terms of FPS increase).

GTA V I got around 2-3 FPS.

Only Witcher 3 saw a Significant improvement, got around 5-8 extra frames there.

Or maybe it's just because I'm using an older card :/

there was a significant improvement in both! :O

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 12, 2015, 12:01:22 pm
there was a significant improvement in both! :O



Well.... HD 7850 Master race.. :P
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 12, 2015, 12:14:32 pm
So in the end, you people with 4GB mindset and 970 guys will be playing the same game with minimal difference of FPS give or take a few.

No, not minimal difference of FPS. it's called STUTTER. so,for me, it's better to use ultra textures with other fxs like post processing turned off and playing a smooth 30 or 40 fps with a slower 380 than have to stutter at 60 fps with 970 right?
low fps and stuttering are completely different things. of course, as i told many times before, 970 is a fineass card if you don't do freaky stuff with your games and not upcoming games as most of them are going to use probably more VRAM than shadow of mordor or GTA 5. especially with higher texture quality and DSR. now, higher texture quality and DSR don't need core count/compute perfomance as much as VRAM needed. (Y)

Just saying.

R9 380 doesn't kill the GTX970 just because it has 4GBs of VRAM. Not even close to it. It's a tad faster than a GTX960. Even that's a maybe. Just get your facts right.

I guess you haven't fully read/misunderstood  my replies -
I didn't mean 380 as a 970 killer in a pure performance view but in a {performance-hard.earned.rupee}  view ;D (Y)

but improved 380X or 390 can be the real 970 killers. we just need to wait and see how AMD improved them apart from ample amount of memory and crazy clocks spds :D :D

again,

And yes. 

Almost all the new AMD cards are rebranded. Plus I hate their new naming scheme. Nitro. WTF!

I already included the link for that matter, have you read that fudzilla article? the are not just rebrands,

now it's reported that amd actually improved the chip design too, i'm not sure in what "aspects" they "improved". only benchmarks will tell.fingers crossed.
 
hawaii chips (290s) are even getting new name after improving them (they are codenamed as Grenada in 390s)

not only those, even older 260,270 (pictrian, bonaire) are said to be improved too.

here is the article,
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37967-amd-r9-r380-and-r390-have-respun-chips

I agree with the lame "Nitro" :D and shit, but It's sapphire's business, not AMD's I guess?

facepalm. again, get your facts right. xD and btw. amd have to step up their tessellation performance before they acquire nvidia hairworks someway. amd cards cant keep up with nvidia with high tessellation which is what hairworks is mainly consist of. dont be a fanboy

Lelz, (no offence) get YOUR facts right, AMD only had poor tessellation performance (bluntly saying - Dx 11) on cards/chips with GCN v.1 (bluntly saying Pictrian,tahiti) slighly improved with GCN v1.1 (Bonaire, hawaii)

and finally GCN v1.2 with tonga and surely with upcoming fiji, improved tessellation perf. to match nvidia's. so, there is no excuse to not to share the code. furthermore, if tessellation performance was the case, then why did nvidia cards  themselves suffered so much?  :D. take a look at some benchmarks with hairworks on. :D

And, from the release of new amd cards, most of the amd buying people gonna use an amd card with tonga/fiji, and many of them gonna play witcher 3 for years, so tessellation performance is not an excuse for nvidia. it's just the cockroach mentality :D

And Guys, seriously how long you all gonna sing "amd driver are buggy" song? he? :D

as have to almost repeat what's been said before and have to reply 3 guys,

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/698/489/2f7.png)







 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 12:46:44 pm
No wonder this guy is a trained noob!
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 12, 2015, 12:49:41 pm
Sometimes Immortal gods bow to trained boobs. sorry noobs.

no hardon feelings..sorry hard feelings (Y) (Y)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Sachi911 on June 12, 2015, 12:53:14 pm
lmao. we shall welcome our new mpad. wkwk. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/4flpGWU.jpg)

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 12, 2015, 07:23:34 pm
lmao. we shall welcome our new mpad. wkwk. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/4flpGWU.jpg)



LoL
Trying to impress them tities xD
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Zer0 on June 13, 2015, 10:08:50 am
True but their beta drivers works better than WHQL

._.
This. The current Nvidia driver is a nightmare. I used a 280X for more than a year with not a single driver issue.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: unix on June 13, 2015, 01:29:39 pm
This. The current Nvidia driver is a nightmare. I used a 280X for more than a year with not a single driver issue.

This really I'm not sure why, different people have different experiences.

Since 2011 I never had a single driver issue with nVidia using both laptop and desktop GPUs. Yes NEVER HAD ANY!

But some people say nvidia drivers are trash and say "newer" amd drivers are better than nvidia. Mostly I've seen this complaint in overclock.net.

But I have like 2 friends saying Nvidia never gave them any driver issues but they are having issues with their 280x cards.

So can you say what kind of issues you are having with current nvidia drivers? stuttering like stuff?


Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Sachi911 on June 13, 2015, 02:17:07 pm
This really I'm not sure why, different people have different experiences.

Since 2011 I never had a single driver issue with nVidia using both laptop and desktop GPUs. Yes NEVER HAD ANY!

But some people say nvidia drivers are trash and say "newer" amd drivers are better than nvidia. Mostly I've seen this complaint in overclock.net.

But I have like 2 friends saying Nvidia never gave them any driver issues but they are having issues with their 280x cards.

So can you say what kind of issues you are having with current nvidia drivers? stuttering like stuff?




for me, crashing like stuff. i havent experienced any stuttering with any game. but this driver has to be the worst to date. they fixed some stuff with a quick update. but now cant go over 120% power target. zz. noob drivers :V 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Zer0 on June 13, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
for me, crashing like stuff. i havent experienced any stuttering with any game. but this driver has to be the worst to date. they fixed some stuff with a quick update. but now cant go over 120% power target. zz. noob drivers :V 
This. Crashes quite often in both PCs I use regularly. It's quite common on OCN as well. I didn't install the hotfix since it didnt fix the crash issue.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 13, 2015, 06:18:09 pm
Again, sites report that's only hawaii chips are "enhanced" and renamed as grenada in 390 and 390X. if that's  the real case, it's gonna go bad for amd and for me. :(
as 380 is gonna probably a 285 4gb and there are no confirmations about a 380X with tonga XT and 6 gigs

waiting for those benchmarks from linus. :yes:
 and for the record of 1 millionth time, :D :D

why nvidia f***ed up the 970?
that was just a perfect little gem.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: unix on June 13, 2015, 06:54:22 pm
This. Crashes quite often in both PCs I use regularly. It's quite common on OCN as well. I didn't install the hotfix since it didnt fix the crash issue.

So I got a lucky card? :o
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 13, 2015, 07:57:53 pm
Waiting for the Real testing results after the release,


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Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 13, 2015, 09:14:40 pm
980 ti for 115K!

zotac is a decent manufacturer.
I'm impressed with the pricing!

anyone into 4k, this is just the time for you guys.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: amjad33 on June 13, 2015, 10:21:29 pm
So I got a lucky card? :o
Me too. I didnt get any single crash and stuttering on my 770. Maybe its bcoz I always perform clean installation of driver with DDU.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 14, 2015, 07:29:14 am
No issues so far with any of my NVIDIA cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: vilan0502 on June 14, 2015, 08:33:40 am
I had an issue with my low end card GT430. After the update of latest driver It was crashed recently. So I threw away that shit then move in to the RED team. Now also I'm using GTX 660 OC. Till now (6 months so far) no issues at all. Hope it will work like a charm till my next upgrade.! :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 14, 2015, 11:36:06 am
you moved into red team with a 660? o.0
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 14, 2015, 11:50:18 am
you moved into red team with a 660? o.0
He went for R7 250X and then got a GTX 660.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: vilan0502 on June 15, 2015, 06:29:06 am
He went for R7 250X and then got a GTX 660.
(Y) Correct bro. Now I'm planning something like 280,280x or GTX 770. :D But I have to upgrade my processor before that.  >:(
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 15, 2015, 07:27:56 am
Now I'm planning something like 280,280x or GTX 770.

better 380 will be available in a few days.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: mystiqfang on June 15, 2015, 06:30:55 pm
Do you think it'll be worth going from a 960GTX to a R9 380 ?
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 15, 2015, 06:43:24 pm
Some information what we got was, dont expect much fm the AMD 380. They will not be a match for NVDIA current models. Since most of the AMD models are using the same current technology.

But lets wait for the reviews.

Do you think it'll be worth going from a 960GTX to a R9 380 ?

When you talk of 960 the R9 380 is a 256 Bit and 960 is a 128Bit. So is the texture mapping. Thats the draw back.

But the memory Clock speeds of 960 is much better than 380. So is the power consumption.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 15, 2015, 08:14:20 pm
honestly, I didn't expect that from a vendor guy. :P
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Zer0 on June 15, 2015, 09:09:11 pm
Do you think it'll be worth going from a 960GTX to a R9 380 ?
No. THat'll be like going from a 760 to a 960.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 15, 2015, 09:57:35 pm
Well, In my opinion. AMD f***ed up.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_r9_390x_teardown_reveals_a_complete_rebrand/1
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Zer0 on June 15, 2015, 10:01:48 pm
Feast your eyes. One day early ;D

(http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Sapphire-Nitro-R9-380-4G-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 15, 2015, 10:37:23 pm
Well, In my opinion. AMD f***ed up.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_r9_390x_teardown_reveals_a_complete_rebrand/1
@Silva (http://gamer.lk/index.php?action=profile;u=205211), luv to see ur face right now.  :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 15, 2015, 11:40:05 pm
Well, In my opinion. AMD f***ed up.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_r9_390x_teardown_reveals_a_complete_rebrand/1

This is what we said its mostly a re brand; AMD normally plays this trick in Processor as well as the VGA, but lets wait for proper review. Nvidia has not got exited neither they hv reduced their prices. They inform that their will not be any change for next 3 months, by then AMD would hv updated their drivers for better performance.

At this time NVIDIA would hv released another model far head of the AMD.

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 16, 2015, 01:32:41 am
Quote
exactly the same PCB and component placement.
at this point we can rule out the possibility of AMD using new silicon in these chips.

well, so,AMD is re-branding an already re-branded chip for the second time without even actually touching the silicon?! and it seems they renamed hawaii as grenada for pure marketing. this is very bad for amd. :no:

and those fudzilla liars!  >:(

now I have little hope only on 380. NOT BECAUSE OF it would be some magically beastly card, but at least would be a beefed up 285!   
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 16, 2015, 01:39:41 am
@ EGS

nvidia might actually INCREASE the prices  :D after this complete f***up by amd!

we should have a 3rd player in business! may be intel should acquire amd and make better use of their gpu making assets! :D
 
or intel should show their iGPU making skills on a discrete graphics card also.  they might succeed as they have access to 10 nm manufacturing process. i'm serious on this. :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 16, 2015, 08:50:09 pm

or intel should show their iGPU making skills on a discrete graphics card also.  they might succeed as they have access to 10 nm manufacturing process. i'm serious on this. :D

I shall pass your info to Intel APAC, in fact Intel was trying to work with NVIDA but it did not work. They should hv taken when it was RADEON.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 16, 2015, 09:43:51 pm
I shall pass your info to Intel APAC, in fact Intel was trying to work with NVIDA but it did not work. They should hv taken when it was RADEON.
yes, they are doing very good with iGPU, they almost double in performance with every iteration. they can do the same with a dedicated GPU section for gamers. it'll succeed.

btw,


*NVIDIA
*ATI

 (Y) 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 16, 2015, 10:07:42 pm
nvidia might actually INCREASE the prices  :D after this complete f***up by amd!
@Silva (http://gamer.lk/index.php?action=profile;u=205211),   Guess who r the lying cockroches now :D
Putting up the same rebrands again and again giving new code names......
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 17, 2015, 05:42:57 am
wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-r9-nano-fury-unveiled-fiji-gpu-based-hbm-powered-649-priced-small-form-factor-powerhouse/

At last something to smile about from AMD.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: ghost911 on June 17, 2015, 07:50:05 am
Just saying..wander over the AMD camp. They have cookies. Nvidia has the cake :P
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 17, 2015, 09:06:48 am
@DSCHANDRASENA
they both pull cheap marketing tricks, in case of lying - it's was website (fudzilla) that lied about amd improving the chips. atleast amd didn't said they did.

but nvidia DID lie about 970 when releasing. they hoped no-one would ever find out. after the matter came out to light, their forums went complete silent for a week after "explaining" the memory partitioning. they accepted returns. the last 0.5 gb is actually operating at the 1/7 th of the GDDR5 speed of the rest of 3.5 GB. they should have advertised the card as 3.5GB+512MB L2 CACHE card. they also gave wrong info about the tmu and rop config on 970.

and YES, fury aircooled model and fury NANO seems a choice for us, sri lankans.
380 too does gives some little hope.but,
360,370,390,390X - complete utter nonsense! 

 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 17, 2015, 09:57:24 am
I'm waiting on the fury Nano's pricing.

It's supposedly more powerful than a 290. If it's priced right, it could be an amazing card.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 17, 2015, 10:04:11 am
I'm waiting on the fury Nano's pricing.

It's supposedly more powerful than a 290. If it's priced right, it could be an amazing card.
:yes: :yes:
now my only hope left in amd is fury or fury nano.

an asus r9 380 is reviewed, it's slightly faster than 960,but an overclocked 960 is slightly faster than 380! :no:

http://www.vmodtech.com/th/article/asus-radeon-r9-380-strix-gaming-2gb-gddr5-review/page/
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 17, 2015, 10:23:55 am
:yes: :yes:
now my only hope left in amd is fury or fury nano.

an asus r9 380 is reviewed, it's slightly faster than 960,but an overclocked 960 is slightly faster than 380! :no:

http://www.vmodtech.com/th/article/asus-radeon-r9-380-strix-gaming-2gb-gddr5-review/page/

That is the 2GB Version, There is a 4GB Version as well, right? Although I doubt it would make much of a difference on the benchmarks, I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 17, 2015, 12:06:40 pm
:yes: :yes:
now my only hope left in amd is fury or fury nano.
http://www.vmodtech.com/th/article/asus-radeon-r9-380-strix-gaming-2gb-gddr5-review/page/
@Silva (http://gamer.lk/index.php?action=profile;u=205211), Not for u I guess.It only has 4GB VRAM ne.....Not enought for ur freakish stuff. :D
And u should get ur 380, the 970 killer. ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 17, 2015, 01:43:24 pm
@Silva (http://gamer.lk/index.php?action=profile;u=205211), Not for u I guess.It only has 4GB VRAM ne.....Not enought for ur freakish stuff. :D
And u should get ur 380, the 970 killer. ;D
No 4 gigs is perfectly fine for me, that freakish stuff (crysis 1 mod using 3.8 gb and some universe sandbox program using all 4gigs) could have suffered if i got 970. I just wanted the compute performance of the 970.

but now 380 being not the 970 killer  ;D(not even the OC'd 960 ;D ;D)...I'm hoping to get fury air or fury nano, waiting for the price. I originally planned to sell my 760 4GB and get a 380 or 380X and an SSD with some extra cash, but now 380 is being a weakass card and no words on 380X. I'm left with fury choice.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Arceus on June 17, 2015, 02:27:48 pm
Water cooled fury is $650 and the air cooled one is $550
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 17, 2015, 05:48:30 pm
No 4 gigs is perfectly fine for me, that freakish stuff (crysis 1 mod using 3.8 gb and some universe sandbox program using all 4gigs) could have suffered if i got 970. I just wanted the compute performance of the 970.

but now 380 being not the 970 killer  ;D(not even the OC'd 960 ;D ;D)...I'm hoping to get fury air or fury nano, waiting for the price. I originally planned to sell my 760 4GB and get a 380 or 380X and an SSD with some extra cash, but now 380 is being a weakass card and no words on 380X. I'm left with fury choice.
U gonna hv to spend some cash for that..I mean $200+ than the 970 ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 17, 2015, 08:39:35 pm
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/388216-amd-fury-x-far-cry-4-game-performance-from-amd/

54 FPS Average, Using the Fury X, For Far Cry 4 in 4K at Ultra settings.

Pretty impressive.

This means it significantly beats the Titan X. With quite the price difference (649 vs 999)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 17, 2015, 08:56:33 pm
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/388216-amd-fury-x-far-cry-4-game-performance-from-amd/

54 FPS Average, Using the Fury X, For Far Cry 4 in 4K at Ultra settings.

Pretty impressive.

This means it significantly beats the Titan X. With quite the price difference (649 vs 999)
Good news for Nvidia users as well. More inventions to come and more price drops! Btw new Pascal series is also gonna be utilizing HBM 2.0 which enables to push VRAM to 8GB or even further.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 18, 2015, 12:14:26 am
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Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 09:31:13 am
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/388216-amd-fury-x-far-cry-4-game-performance-from-amd/

54 FPS Average, Using the Fury X, For Far Cry 4 in 4K at Ultra settings.

Pretty impressive.

This means it significantly beats the Titan X. With quite the price difference (649 vs 999)

That's with fury X right? on that titan x did 46 fps (on linus benchmark, 37 fps on techpowerup, 42 on anandtech), that's significant for fury X. but considering that the normal fury is only around 500 shader cores less than fury X, even fury could beat titan X by a minute margin. and that's even lower price ratio (549 vs 999)

btw, a gigabyte 980 ti oc'd is on par with fury X though on linus' benchmark. fury X could be also overclock-able right? so it could still beat 980 ti by large margin if oc'd good. but a reference 980 ti only did 35 fps? wtf?

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2015, 10:30:12 am
That's with fury X right? on that titan x did 46 fps (on linus benchmark, 37 fps on techpowerup, 42 on anandtech), that's significant for fury X. but considering that the normal fury is only around 500 shader cores less than fury X, even fury could beat titan X by a minute margin. and that's even lower price ratio (549 vs 999)

btw, a gigabyte 980 ti oc'd is on par with fury X though on linus' benchmark. fury X could be also overclock-able right? so it could still beat 980 ti by large margin if oc'd good. but a reference 980 ti only did 35 fps? wtf?



By a purely presumptuous estimate, I think the Fury will be on par with The Titan X, and the Fury X Will beat it.

Both good deals for the price!

Some details on the nano
http://www.thinkcomputers.org/amd-radeon-r9-nano-detailed/

If this can beat the 970/980 and is at a better price point, AND doesn't heat up. It'll be a game changer.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Sachi911 on June 18, 2015, 11:01:51 am
why do people compare a gaming gpu with a titan? confused :S
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 11:24:16 am
@kando
yes, being said, a cut down version of fury, it could be the real 970 killer ;D

@sachi
Titan X was not intended for the double precision compute like the original titan,titan black or titan z. It's in fact, bad at FP64 computation.  it's really meant to be the 295X2 killer, so it can be considered a gaming card too.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2015, 11:59:32 am
why do people compare a gaming gpu with a titan? confused :S
Because I guess the Titan is the power house of the current generation? So beating that must be something good? That's why I made the comparison anyway.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2015, 07:14:01 pm
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_review/1
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Anusha on June 18, 2015, 08:09:15 pm
why do people compare a gaming gpu with a titan? confused :S
Because this time round, it IS a gaming GPU. Not a workstation replacement like the previous models.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_review/1
No idea why he is giving it a gold rating though. Same GPU with slightly higher clocks but 2.5 slot cooler?

I'm waiting on the fury Nano's pricing.

It's supposedly more powerful than a 290. If it's priced right, it could be an amazing card.
Let's be realistic now. It has a 175W TDP. The full Fury X has 275W TDP. So it would have give around 64% TFLOPS of the Fury X, which is about same speed as the R9 290x. They might gain a bit of performance by HBM. Sadly, due to the single 8-pin connector and cooler, it won't OC that high. You might be able to match it with a GTX 970, which overclock pretty high even the mini-ITX models.

That's with fury X right? on that titan x did 46 fps (on linus benchmark, 37 fps on techpowerup, 42 on anandtech), that's significant for fury X. but considering that the normal fury is only around 500 shader cores less than fury X, even fury could beat titan X by a minute margin. and that's even lower price ratio (549 vs 999)

btw, a gigabyte 980 ti oc'd is on par with fury X though on linus' benchmark. fury X could be also overclock-able right? so it could still beat 980 ti by large margin if oc'd good. but a reference 980 ti only did 35 fps? wtf?


It's just one benchmark. I bet this is the one that did the best. It's all marketing. Wait for the independent reviews first.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 08:11:15 pm
I'm quite surprised. It's not bad as I expected. it's now on par/beat some games with 980 and less expensive.
far cry 4 results were strange, 390X=65fps 290X=50fps @ 1440, that's quite a difference for a simple rebrand. though it may be the excellent work of MSI. their new cooler is also impressive.

redline should get MSI ones too for potential buyers.

like the reviewer said, it's an excellent card for the money.
anyway I'm gonna wait till all fury cards land.



 
Title: Re: New AMD Graphics Cards
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 08:14:45 pm
Kando, better change topic title to "New AMD Graphics Cards" ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Anusha on June 18, 2015, 08:18:43 pm
I'm quite surprised. It's not bad as I expected. it's now on par/beat some games with 980 and less expensive.
far cry 4 results were strange, 390X=65fps 290X=50fps @ 1440, that's quite a difference for a simple rebrand. though it may be the excellent work of MSI. their new cooler is also impressive.

redline should get MSI ones too for potential buyers.

like the reviewer said, it's an excellent card for the money.
anyway I'm gonna wait till all fury cards land.
Has he rerun the benchmarks on the 290x or is he using the results from his original 290x review?

Edit:
He is reusing the results from this review for the 290x.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_r9_290x_8gb_dd_review/13 (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_r9_290x_8gb_dd_review/13)

That's not right. Driver updates would have brought the performance of the R9 290x up. Although it is not an old review, AMD could have a better driver for the 300 series. Since they are showing off Farcry 4 performance, probably they managed to tweak that game with this particular driver. Other games do not show that much of a difference.

On the contrary, NVidia seems to have deliberately worsened the Kepler performance with each driver since Maxwell release.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 08:27:11 pm
Let's be realistic now. It has a 175W TDP. The full Fury X has 275W TDP. So it would have give around 64% TFLOPS of the Fury X, which is about same speed as the R9 290x. They might gain a bit of performance by HBM. Sadly, due to the single 8-pin connector and cooler, it won't OC that high. You might be able to match it with a GTX 970, which overclock pretty high even the mini-ITX models.
It's just one benchmark. I bet this is the one that did the best. It's all marketing. Wait for the independent reviews first.

Fury nano's shader count and core clock speed are not disclosed yet, I don't understand the logic of calculating compute performance solely on TDP :) elaborate if possible,

but being priced 450-500 you might be right. but fiji is a completely new architecture, we need to see the numbers first. :)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 08:36:27 pm
Has he rerun the benchmarks on the 290x or is he using the results from his original 290x review?

Edit:
He is reusing the results from this review for the 290x.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_r9_290x_8gb_dd_review/13 (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_r9_290x_8gb_dd_review/13)

That's not right. Driver updates would have brought the performance of the R9 290x up. Although it is not an old review, AMD could have a better driver for the 300 series. Since they are showing off Farcry 4 performance, probably they managed to tweak that game with this particular driver. Other games do not show that much of a difference.
wow, yes the results for 290 was from old review. yes, as driver updates could've brought up 290X's numbers. he should have re-ran 290X, the whole point of that benchmark is to know whether 390X is any good from 290X, they missed it. they seem to be too lazy :D.

or maybe he re-ran, out of extreme co-incident, numbers came out same for 290X. but i doubt that :D :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 08:39:37 pm

Quote
On the contrary, NVidia seems to have deliberately worsened the Kepler performance with each driver since Maxwell release.
:D :D, true dat.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Anusha on June 18, 2015, 08:39:57 pm
Fury nano's shader count and core clock speed are not disclosed yet, I don't understand the logic of calculating compute performance solely on TDP :) elaborate if possible,

but being priced 450-500 you might be right. but fiji is a completely new architecture, we need to see the numbers first. :)
It is just like NVidia had to drop the clock speed to limit the Titan-Z's TDP to 375W. Titan-Z was only about 1.5 times as fast as a Titan Black Edition which had a TDP of 250W. 375W is 1.5 times 250W. TDP will give you a ROUGH performance figure. (Of course you cannot compare different architectures)

The TFLOP rating would be about 64% of Fury X. And that would be roughly how fast it would be.

They say the Nano would be 2x the performance per watt. Since it is 175W, it would be similar to a 290x running at 350W. Since the 290x has a TDP rating of 290W, the Nano would be about 350/290 = 1.2 or 20% faster than a 290x.

Again, I cannot guess the clock speeds. It can be 750MHz with lots of shaders or 1000MHz with about 3000 shaders. Who knows.

How much money AMD will demand for it uncertain. Since it would be the fastest mini-ITX card available, they'll probably ask close to that $549 mark. Gotta milk the pockets of the customers while they can.

Edit:
How they've managed to improve the power draw is impressive without a shrink in process node.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 09:22:17 pm
How much money AMD will demand for it uncertain. Since it would be the fastest mini-ITX card available, they'll probably ask close to that $549 mark. Gotta milk the pockets of the customers while they can.
various sites listed a 450-500 mark

Quote
Edit:
How they've managed to improve the power draw is impressive without a shrink in process node.
stacked HBM sure has a part in that. almost halved power use of GDDR 5.

edit : oh, if you meant specifically about NANO's power consumption, it's probably gonna be less cores and slower core clock.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Anusha on June 18, 2015, 09:36:00 pm
various sites listed a 450-500 mark
stacked HBM sure has a part in that. almost halved power use of GDDR 5.
Memory didn't use a lot of power in the first place. Must be less than 10% of total TDP. They are only saving like 20W with HBM I bet.

edit : oh, if you meant specifically about NANO's power consumption, it's probably gonna be less cores and slower core clock.
no i meant Fiji's overall.

4096 SPs @275W compared to 290x's 2816 SPs @ 290W with the same process node.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 09:42:45 pm
yes you are right. memory play little part in TDP.

yes it's impressive, as you said without node shrink, it has to do with the architecture. maybe AMD pulled some voodoo stuff into. :D

I'm sure nvidia are a billion times curious than us :D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2015, 09:43:21 pm
I can't contribute to the more technical side of things as I'm not too familiar with that, But here's a review of the Sapphire Nitro R9 390 8GB

http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8gb-graphics-card-review/

Looks like it's just ever so slightly behind the 980 (4-11 FPS Behind), Which is priced around 550$. And the 390 will price at 439 According to rumors.

So it all comes down to whether you want to pay around 100 dollars more for a few frames extra

However the 390 does considerably better than the 970, Although their using a card with an unknown manufacturer to me (Gainward?)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 09:59:23 pm
given that redline priced sapphire 390 at 65K, it's almost 980 equivalent for 35K less
here. ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2015, 10:06:07 pm
also, that website's gpuz's pic says 390 as hawaii, didn't they rename it to grenada?
or gpu-z isn't up to date?
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 18, 2015, 10:22:18 pm
also, that website's gpuz's pic says 390 as hawaii, didn't they rename it to grenada?
or gpu-z isn't up to date?
They renamed it on paper. But the deviceid which identifies the chip is still the same. So GPU-Z thinks it's a Hawaii chip.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 18, 2015, 10:29:19 pm
Here goes the results between the 390X and the NVIDIA you decide if you want to buy this card or not, These results were taken based on the current drivers, Future drivers would take time.

Conclusion

As usual, AMD with its new graphics cards ensured that all price points better price / performance than Nvidia offering. When one card is convincing successful than the other, but still. The Radeon R7 370 in almost all the games much faster than the similarly priced GeForce GTX 750 Ti. The R9 380 is in most of the games more quickly than the equal-priced GeForce GTX 960, if this difference is smaller. And although the Radeon R9 390X on its price point has no direct competitor, the card is often as fast or even faster than the much more expensive GTX 980. In that respect, not praise.

However, this product introduction leaves us with mixed feelings. The fact that existing AMD GPUs used is probably something you have to go over it as a fancier place, but certainly in the case of R7 370 starts to be embarrassing. The three-year-old does not Pitcairn GPU DirectX 12 feature level 12_0, no Free Sync and no OpenCL 2.0, to name just three things. To sell such as new card in 2015 is actually an almost irresponsible. On the other hand, it is precisely the difference between this map and the GTX 750 Ti quite large. That makes you an almost impossible choice should be made between on the one hand improved performance and better features and lower power consumption on the other.

AMD may well be on all price points a better price / performance ratio than offer Nvidia, on all price points at which Nvidia has a 900-series map as a counterpart (the 960 relative to the 380, the 970/980 with respect to the 390X) Nvidia has a clear modern offerings. The 900-series cards for example, offer DirectX 12 feature level 12_1, HDMI 2.0, in the case of the GTX 960 an H.265 decoder and undoubtedly better efficiency. AMD there, with the R7 370 as the exception, of course Free Sync opposite, what with the huge number of suitable screens which has become available or announced, more and more a real benefit begins to be.

Long story short: the R7 370 we would be despite the significantly better performance than the GTX 750 Ti does not have direct first choice. The remaining cards are for those simply looking for the highest number of fps per euro definitely worth considering, especially with Free Sync in mind. The Radeon R9 390X as WQHD card for entry level or Ultra HD a very interesting choice compared to the more expensive GTX 980 and for R9 380 compared to the GTX 960 is sure what to say. But the choice is a no brainer for AMD this generation is anything but.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 18, 2015, 10:31:04 pm
here is the link

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/6138/12/amd-radeon-r7-370-r9-380-en-r9-390x-review-nieuwe-line-up-met-bestaande-chips-benchmarks-battlefield-4

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 18, 2015, 10:48:50 pm
Here goes the comparison of the Sapphire 380/390 vs NVIDIA, when i look at it, you guys r real pro gamers i am a noob n i find at times a 280X looks better than the 380 or not much of a difference.

Again a RS. 36K GTX 960 will be a better buy than a 380 for the money that you spend and the frames that you get.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/1984-amd-r9-390-380-benchmark-review/Page-2

The prices given for the new cards on RL site is taken when price comparison is indicated. Since the price is 99% correct.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 19, 2015, 12:12:35 pm
380 is now officially confirmed as a complete disaster :D, it hasn't improved even a bit from 285.

only rebranded-cards impressed me are msi's and sapphire's 390.

Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 19, 2015, 12:45:27 pm

The 390x performs roughly on par With the 970 (I say this because the 390x beats the 970 in some games by a small margin, and is equal to it or worse in others). And considering the 390 is a lower version of the 390x, It's possible the 970 will perform better than the 390. And according to Redline, the prices are the same. So Unless you have some need for that 8GB, the 970 Might be the better gaming option when compared to a 390 at the same price point

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,13.html
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 19, 2015, 01:38:43 pm
The 390x performs roughly on par With the 970 (I say this because the 390x beats the 970 in some games by a small margin, and is equal to it or worse in others). And considering the 390 is a lower version of the 390x, It's possible the 970 will perform better than the 390. And according to Redline, the prices are the same. So Unless you have some need for that 8GB, the 970 Might be the better gaming option when compared to a 390 at the same price point

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,13.html
Pretty sure the R9 390x performs on par with the GTX 980. R9 390 seems to be on par with the GTX 970.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 19, 2015, 01:43:30 pm
Pretty sure the R9 390x performs on par with the GTX 980. R9 390 seems to be on par with the GTX 970.

Sorry, seems like I glazed over a few results (I mainly looked at GTA V and the Witcher 3.

But either way , Equal performance and equal price.

the 390 has 8GB and the 970 is more power efficient (or so I heard)
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on June 19, 2015, 02:45:52 pm
Sorry, seems like I glazed over a few results (I mainly looked at GTA V and the Witcher 3.

But either way , Equal performance and equal price.

the 390 has 8GB and the 970 is more power efficient (or so I heard)

thought the 970 is not power hungry going for a 970 over a 390 is actually a really dumb move
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: unix on June 19, 2015, 03:05:54 pm
thought the 970 is not power hungry going for a 970 over a 390 is actually a really dumb move

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,8.html

Considering the power usage yes GTX970 is very efficient while performance not so different between two cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on June 19, 2015, 03:23:57 pm
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,8.html

Considering the power usage yes GTX970 is very efficient while performance not so different between two cards.

Wont that 8GB just give a FATALITY to the 970?
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 19, 2015, 03:34:59 pm
hehe..no way. eventhough 970 was not perfect for ME, 970 is WAAAAAY MUCH better choice than 390 for a casual gamer.

even serious modding wouldn't swallow 8 gigs, and 390 isn't polished enough to drive 4K. so that 8 gigs is just a carrot amd dangling over our heads.
only specifically built programs/mods can even take up 4 gigs.

btw, direct 12 games may be in great favor of amd cards in future (even for now rebranded cards). direct x 12 results are bit mind boggling.

here's my thread about dx 12 :
http://gamer.lk/index.php/topic,29017.0.html





Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 19, 2015, 05:59:07 pm
Pretty sure the R9 390x performs on par with the GTX 980. R9 390 seems to be on par with the GTX 970.

Where did you find that the 390X is in par with GTX 980 ? its 50/50 in some games it is. In some games its lower than 970.

Take Battlefield if you play in 4K mode you gain but in SL is that possible by all ? Best option go with 970 Amp Extreme @ 64K with lower psu better efficient power management and Good VGA.

Are you going to spend 75K n extra K for the PSU ? At least we can sell our PSU but thats not what we want. 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: KauBoy on June 19, 2015, 07:15:17 pm
Where did you find that the 390X is in par with GTX 980 ? its 50/50 in some games it is. In some games its lower than 970.

Take Battlefield if you play in 4K mode you gain but in SL is that possible by all ? Best option go with 970 Amp Extreme @ 64K with lower psu better efficient power management and Good VGA.

Are you going to spend 75K n extra K for the PSU ? At least we can sell our PSU but thats not what we want. 

slow clap for the moment we have here!
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 19, 2015, 09:13:40 pm
Where did you find that the 390X is in par with GTX 980 ? its 50/50 in some games it is. In some games its lower than 970.
Dude check the link Kando posted. I'll give you some more links if you want. I only checked 1440p performance. Didn't even bother to check 4K performance. I mean, who on their right mind would buy one of those for 4K? It should either be a dual GPU setup or Fury X (non-X should be viable too) for comfortable gaming at 4K.

As for the PSU thing, where did that come from? Your "best option" is valid for people who game at 1080p or those who aren't willing to upgrade their PSUs.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Kando on June 19, 2015, 09:55:02 pm
Alright So Correct me if I'm wrong.

390 == 970 (both same price)
390X (roughly) = 980.

So I'm guessing the 970 should be taken instead of the 390, Since the prices are similar, and the 390X instead of the 980 since the performance is almost similar however it s around 20k cheaper according to Redline.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 19, 2015, 10:20:29 pm
Alright So Correct me if I'm wrong.

390 == 970 (both same price)
390X (roughly) = 980.

So I'm guessing the 970 should be taken instead of the 390, Since the prices are similar, and the 390X instead of the 980 since the performance is almost similar however it s around 20k cheaper according to Redline.
Correct. However this is without taking PSUs into factor. Because what PSUs people have, should only be considered when recommending GPUs to those specific people.

If someone's gaming at 1440p, they however should consider the R9 390 over the 970 (if they've enough power). 970's 3.5 VRAM might be more of a problem at 1440p than in 1080p.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: EGS on June 19, 2015, 11:16:06 pm
Dude check the link Kando posted. I'll give you some more links if you want. I only checked 1440p performance. Didn't even bother to check 4K performance. I mean, who on their right mind would buy one of those for 4K?

As for the PSU thing, where did that come from? Your "best option" is valid for people who game at 1080p or those who aren't willing to upgrade their PSUs.

Lashan, I am not a gamer, like you may be or My good friend Kando is. I am purely going by the results, 97% of the so called high end Sri Lankan gamers use a 22/24/27 which has 1920 x 1080 max on ultr mode. They cannot go anything higher since lack of display at affordable price.

Now in this mode the AMD's best card which is the 390X behind the NVIDIA 980, in some games and in some games its better, but not way better, now when we say
NVIDA 980 we r talking about the very basic 980 which is priced at 80K.

This is what they say after trying 390X;

"The usual suspects favor AMD and Nvidia cards, with the notable exception of Batman: Arkham Origins. Previously an Nvidia-ruled title, the latest drivers and hardware from AMD give the 390X an edge over the 980. The 390X also holds onto a moderate lead in Hitman: Absolution, with a smaller lead in Shadow of Mordor. The GTX 980 wins the rest of the match-ups, with Unigine Heaven, The Witcher 3, and GTAV all favoring Nvidia by 10 percent or more, depending on the resolution.

Of course, we’re running at standardized maxed out (or nearly so) settings, and it’s possible to tune each game to run substantially faster without sacrificing too much in the way of image quality—turning off HairWorks in The Witcher 3, for example, can provide a serious boost to frame rates. On average, however, Nvidia’s GTX 980 maintains a lead at 1080p and 1440p settings, but the 390X claims a victory at 4K, no doubt thanks to the 8GB memory.

The GTX 980 Ti wins in all the races, but at $220 more than the 390X it's understandably not in reach of many gamers. In terms of bang for the buck, the GTX 970 and R9 390 are the best values."

So, for an average gamer still 970 is the best bet for the price he pays. 390 is behind 970 and its not worth the money. Since both r at the same price n ratings show its behind 970.

So you cannot say 390X is a over all winner, Winner should not loose to other cards in any games. The 390X even goes lower than 970 in Far Cry 4.

This is my view point, i can be corrected but you should provide valid points for it. Since I am not a gamer i am also learning.

 
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 19, 2015, 11:43:59 pm
Lashan, I am not a gamer, like you may be or My good friend Kando is. I am purely going by the results, 97% of the so called high end Sri Lankan gamers use a 22/24/27 which has 1920 x 1080 max
Well you're right about that. We were simply comparing GPU performance, weren't we? I agree, at 1080p 970 is probably the best choice for SL gamers.(except freaks like Silva :P)

now when we say
NVIDA 980 we r talking about the very basic 980 which is priced at 80K
Wait. You can find 980s for 80k in SL?  o.0

So you cannot say 390X is a over all winner, Winner should not loose to other cards in any games. The 390X even goes lower than 970 in Far Cry 4.
I never said 390X is a overall winner now, did I? To be frank I'm not interested in 390X at all(maybe the 390 but certainly not the 390x).
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 20, 2015, 08:46:51 am
I like to repeat my last reply, long story short -

970 is much better choice than 390 for normal gaming (not using extreme mods, using sandbox simulation programs where you'll be using all 100% vram).

390X might be equivalent for 980 for less price, but if you consider power usage and heavily nvidia optimized games, 980 wins. (most the games EGS said that even 970 is doing better than 390X are, heavily NVIDIA optimized games.)

so, finally, I wouldn't say re-branded 3XXs are a win for amd. they just offered budget minded side of the world, some choices.


ps. 980 for 80k? ??? where? ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: commanderx on June 20, 2015, 04:34:08 pm
here are some new benchmarks. I'm not that impressed with 3xx power consumption or temps despite the performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhA2eCOEjHo
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Anusha on June 20, 2015, 05:59:27 pm
The 390x isn't any faster than the 290x (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/18/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_video_card_review/9#.VYVfUUZxYn8) except for that slightly higher clock speeds. They are the same architecture. Identical. No optimizations, other than better yields due to maturity of 28nm process node.

The reason for seemingly better performance is improved the drivers. The version 15.15 drivers seem to have received a lot of tessellation optimizations.

Maybe NVidia can release new drivers too. I'm sure they have some unreleased stuff kept secret "just in case". We do the same thing with the printer driver at work. We only add the performance optimizations once we assemble many of them together.
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 21, 2015, 07:57:04 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://wccftech.com/fast-amd-radeon-r9-nano-find/
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Zer0 on June 22, 2015, 02:33:53 pm
Price update on the Radeon 300 series.

Sapphire Radeon R9 390X Tri-X 8GB GDDR5 - 72,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R9 390 Nitro 8GB GDDR5 - 56,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R9 380 Nitro 4GB GDDR5 - 38,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 370 Nitro 4GB GDDR5 - 29,500/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 370 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 - 26,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 360 2GB GDDR5 - 19,500/=
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: commanderx on June 22, 2015, 05:03:46 pm
390x looks clearly more power hungry than 290x. still for this price tag can't complain much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FujNv0b4oOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUmV7lFzjM
Title: Re: Sapphire r9 380 nitro 4GB
Post by: Silva on June 22, 2015, 05:18:24 pm
Price update on the Radeon 300 series.

Sapphire Radeon R9 390X Tri-X 8GB GDDR5 - 72,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R9 390 Nitro 8GB GDDR5 - 56,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R9 380 Nitro 4GB GDDR5 - 38,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 370 Nitro 4GB GDDR5 - 29,500/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 370 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 - 26,000/=
Sapphire Radeon R7 360 2GB GDDR5 - 19,500/=
(https://www.wordans.ca/wvc-1334352285/wordansfiles/images/2012/4/13/137581/137581_340.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 24, 2015, 06:29:30 pm
According to Linus, GTX 980Ti wins over the Fury X

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-CDFNOTZy8o
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 24, 2015, 06:48:56 pm
AMD Radeon R9 Fury X tested: not quite a 980 Ti killer

http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-tested-not-quite-a-980-ti-killer/

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 25, 2015, 12:08:28 am
HBM my ass!
Fiji XT my ass!
Water cooling my ass!
Smaller board my ass!
Mantle my ass!
Freesync my ass!


and Nvidia, f*** you too!


we need INTEL asap!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 25, 2015, 12:33:19 am
AMD Radeon R9 Fury X tested: not quite a 980 Ti killer

http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-tested-not-quite-a-980-ti-killer/
Out of all the reviews that portray the Fury X and the 980Ti as equals, this one article that compared a stock Fury X to a 980Ti Classified (of all cards) seems to be the one that most people are sharing. Nvidia marketing $$$ is clearly being put to good use to promote it ;)

For more neutral reviews, check any of these out. All of them with a much better reputation for hardware reviews than PC Gamer.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/31.html
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-R9-Fury-X-4GB-Review-Fiji-Finally-Tested
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x,4196.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/69682-amd-r9-fury-x-review-fiji-arrives.html
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_fury_x_review/1
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review#.VYr9Ey6qpBd
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,1.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/06/24/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/1
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/06/24/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/13
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/?page=14
http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review-amds-new-flag-ship-graphics-card
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/20/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review-amds-new-flag-ship-graphics-card-gtx-980-ti-or-fury-x-which-one-is-the-best-choice
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20730-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x/20#content
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7217/amd-radeon-r9-fury-high-bandwidth-memory-hbm-video-card-review/index.html


Also, the Fury X will cost 115k or less.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 25, 2015, 12:36:14 am
Also, the Fury X will cost 115k or less.

so, NANO could be around 70K!?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: skipper on June 25, 2015, 12:51:52 am
so, NANO could be around 70K!?

NANO cost 65K.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 25, 2015, 12:52:19 am
so, NANO could be around 70K!?
Neither you nor me have any idea how much it'll cost.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 25, 2015, 09:25:27 am
Out of all the reviews that portray the Fury X and the 980Ti as equals, this one article that compared a stock Fury X to a 980Ti Classified (of all cards) seems to be the one that most people are sharing. Nvidia marketing $$$ is clearly being put to good use to promote it ;)

For more neutral reviews, check any of these out. All of them with a much better reputation for hardware reviews than PC Gamer

Yeah. Thanks for the info. Even I don't use PC gamer for hardware reviews. Posted it cause I saw it on FB.
Anyway the reviews you mentioned gives a good picture about how the cards compete with each other.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/31.html
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-R9-Fury-X-4GB-Review-Fiji-Finally-Tested
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x,4196.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/69682-amd-r9-fury-x-review-fiji-arrives.html
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_fury_x_review/1
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review#.VYr9Ey6qpBd
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,1.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/06/24/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/1
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/06/24/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/13
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/?page=14
http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review-amds-new-flag-ship-graphics-card
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/20/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review-amds-new-flag-ship-graphics-card-gtx-980-ti-or-fury-x-which-one-is-the-best-choice
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20730-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x/20#content
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7217/amd-radeon-r9-fury-high-bandwidth-memory-hbm-video-card-review/index.html
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 25, 2015, 11:21:02 am
Is it true that AMD is not allowing other manufacturers to change the design of the Fury X?  So everyone will produce it as in the reference design. If that's the case will other manufacturers be able to change the clock speeds like they do with other cards?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 25, 2015, 11:35:59 am
Is it true that AMD is not allowing other manufacturers to change the design of the Fury X?  So everyone will produce it as in the reference design. If that's the case will other manufacturers be able to change the clock speeds like they do with other cards?
Fury X is locked.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on June 25, 2015, 07:06:31 pm
Fury X is locked.
That's sad news for the AMD users then. Unless AMD drop their prices GTX 980Ti is the clear winner.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 25, 2015, 08:40:33 pm
That's sad news for the AMD users then. Unless AMD drop their prices GTX 980Ti is the clear winner.
Fury will not be locked.

I have a feeling the Fury's performance deficit is mostly due to immature drivers. Except for the number of ROPs, it should be about 45% faster than the 390X but we don't see that kind of lead.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 12, 2015, 12:01:56 pm
sapphire's tri-x fury review -
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84512-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-tri-x-oc/

almost as fast as fury X and for 90K (redline, is this the sapphire card you listed for 90k?)

only slightly behind fury X /980ti/titanx but much much better than a 980. how are you people gonna sell a 980 still for 100k?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on July 12, 2015, 12:47:24 pm
sapphire's tri-x fury review -
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84512-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-tri-x-oc/

almost as fast as fury X and for 90K (redline, is this the sapphire card you listed for 90k?)

only slightly behind fury X /980ti/titanx but much much better than a 980. how are you people gonna sell a 980 still for 100k?
U know that EGS is selling GTX 980 Omega for less than 80K right?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 12, 2015, 01:30:02 pm
question was for redline.
furthermore there is a news of already effective price cut for maxwell cards too. that's why i asked that.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-aibs-silently-cut-prices-highend-maxwell-cards-geforce-gtx-980-ti-selling-629-gtx-980-479/
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 16, 2016, 05:34:35 pm
Revived an old thread  ;D which born on wrong time (like Nikola Tesla) :D
now it's seems it can serve.

So here it serves the original purpose, hear it fellas,

with the second coming of AMD  :D , I mean RX 480,470 and 460 , every previous generation entry level, mid range and high-mid range card , be it amd or nvidia, will be obsolete on price,performance,power efficiency, overclocking, thermals  and features.

so get rid of them asap if planning an upgrade. this goes for the vendors too :P

like some wise guy put it simple on a forum,

RX 480 it's,
faster than 980 (almost confirmed)
uses less power
operates cooler
will overclock better (to be confirmed)
has better dx 12.1 support and async computing
VR ready (and i say bullshit  :D)

last and more importantly, CHEAPAH



extra news - nvidia cut prices of  900 series by 20%.

too late buddy, too late greedy f***s.  :D



Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 16, 2016, 06:41:08 pm
Sapphire's RX 480 Nitro (RUMOR!!)

(http://fudzilla.com/media/k2/items/cache/0ac6765961164e5ee51b1d02b83ffd00_L.jpg)

Personally, not very impressed. The holes make it look like a showerhead :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 16, 2016, 07:09:20 pm
Sapphire's RX 480 Nitro (RUMOR!!)

Personally, not very impressed. The holes make it look like a showerhead :D

Why did sapphire go retro?
I really liked the older vapor x & Toxics far more than nitros.
They were badass in name and looks
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 16, 2016, 07:12:04 pm
Revived an old thread  ;D which born on wrong time (like Nikola Tesla) :D
now it's seems it can serve.

So here it serves the original purpose, hear it fellas,

with the second coming of AMD  :D , I mean RX 480,470 and 460 , every previous generation entry level, mid range and high-mid range card , be it amd or nvidia, will be obsolete on price,performance,power efficiency, overclocking, thermals  and features.

so get rid of them asap if planning an upgrade. this goes for the vendors too :P

like some wise guy put it simple on a forum,

RX 480 it's,
faster than 980 (almost confirmed)
uses less power
operates cooler
will overclock better (to be confirmed)
has better dx 12.1 support and async computing
VR ready (and i say bullshit  :D)

last and more importantly, CHEAPAH



extra news - nvidia cut prices of  900 series by 20%.

too late buddy, too late greedy f***s.  :D


So you believe it is faster than a 980 but don't believe it is VR Ready?

Personally I feel the card will beat out the 970, but it might be on par or slightly slower than the 980 when it comes to actual gaming (Because people say FireStrike isn't an accurate test?)

I hope I'm wrong though, Majorly excited for this card, Might finally be getting an upgrade.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 16, 2016, 11:32:27 pm
agreed, sapphire went fullretard on aesthetics, me too really wanted a vapor x or toxic look, but i am not that keen into cosmetics, as long as it operates cooler and quieter, totally fine with that design.

So you believe it is faster than a 980 but don't believe it is VR Ready?
you got me wrong, it's the whole VR hype i was bashing, and amd using the fake VR hype to introduce the card, i said this before in another thread too. it's not the card i said bullshit.

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Personally I feel the card will beat out the 970, but it might be on par or slightly slower than the 980 when it comes to actual gaming (Because people say FireStrike isn't an accurate test?)
it's quite opposite, in games it may perform even better especially amd optimized ones, then obviously it may fall behind on nvidia titles (take this with a pinch of salt  :P), but the point is firestrike is accurate, and it indicates 480 has a bit more juice than an oc'd 980,  so we can safely assume it will definitely beat 980 with slight overclocking + further driver updates.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: SAD KILLER on June 17, 2016, 12:25:05 am
I beleive that RX serios will be faster than 980 and  for a cheap price but im a noob :yes: :yes: :stupid: :stupid:
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 17, 2016, 04:08:11 am

you got me wrong, it's the whole VR hype i was bashing, and amd using the fake VR hype to introduce the card, i said this before in another thread too. it's not the card i said bullshit.

I wouldn't necessarily bash them for that. AMD has been generally awful with their marketing. Using the current VR hype to market their card is a genius move in my opinion. But it's true that many people will buy it for the raw gaming performance anyway.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 17, 2016, 01:32:29 pm
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-1500mhz-overclocking-tool-voltage-control/

So not only is thecard going to be beastly, It's going to overclock like a beast too.

Well played AMD, Well played.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 17, 2016, 05:50:23 pm
I beleive that RX serios will be faster than 980 and  for a cheap price but im a noob :yes: :yes: :stupid: :stupid:
Ok, we are excited too, why you had to tell you are noob? did we say we are pros here?  :P


@cyberninja
people who spend $700-$1000 on vr likely to be powering them with cards like 1070 or above, and amd's big market for 480 and below series is going to be average gamers, just gamers who don't salivate over vr YET. so it's pointless to say 'hey it's vr ready' unless amd thinks people are stupid imo, it's like this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldSMOz6ETI8

amd could've gone just plain and said 'competitor, take this up your...' or something like that, but hey they are people with super duper business degrees, it might be the right move.

@kando
yes! people are saying oc'd rx 480 may be knocking on stock 1070! can you imagine that power for half price?  :D
i hope amd deals the same blow for intel too with zen. we have achieved buddhahood in gpu power, just enjoy those jealous rich kids on those forums with 980s , ti's, titan x's posting all kind of stuff offending amd :D untill get our hands on it. those sadist f***ers just can't accept amd's pricing  :D they are having a hard time believing it happened.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 17, 2016, 09:28:47 pm
So according to this, the 480 Isn't as powerful as the 980, not the 1070.

But CossFire Performance is pretty neat, Although not all games scale well with multiple GPU's

(http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2016/06/17111007883l.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on June 17, 2016, 10:41:59 pm
3DMark scores mostly favors Nvidia, lets wait until we see some real game benchmarks.  I didn't expect it to beat 1070.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2016, 01:01:41 am
3DMark scores mostly favors Nvidia, lets wait until we see some real game benchmarks.  I didn't expect it to beat 1070.

well tbh im more than satisfied if it comes anywhere close to a 980.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 18, 2016, 08:59:21 am
@kando
I think that benchmark you posted is the old "leaked" one. in the last confirmed firestrike score i've seen at wccftech, it edges over an OVERCLOCKED 980.
(http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/AMD-RX-480-Benchmark-GTX-Titan-X-R9-Fury-X-R9-Nano-GTX-980-R9-390.jpg)

@amjad
no, it won't beat 1070, some rumors, a heavily overclocked  rx 480 may knock on stock 1070's doorstep. that's not knocking it out, that means it may come near stock 1070's performance. 


Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 18, 2016, 12:24:24 pm
@kando
I think that benchmark you posted is the old "leaked" one. in the last confirmed firestrike score i've seen at wccftech, it edges over an OVERCLOCKED 980.
(http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/AMD-RX-480-Benchmark-GTX-Titan-X-R9-Fury-X-R9-Nano-GTX-980-R9-390.jpg)

@amjad
no, it won't beat 1070, some rumors, a heavily overclocked  rx 480 may knock on stock 1070's doorstep. that's not knocking it out, that means it may come near stock 1070's performance. 




Actually, It was taken from this article posted just yesterday, Sorry I didn't link the source in my first post.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_rx_480_crossfire_benchmark_results_leak_online/1
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on June 19, 2016, 02:53:02 pm
Zero do you have price estimate for 480?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 19, 2016, 03:34:14 pm
Zero do you have price estimate for 480?
8GB is 50k. That's confirmed and will be available around the launch date. No confirmation of the 4GB model, but knowing Sapphire pricing approximately 42-44k.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 19, 2016, 05:05:35 pm
8GB is 50k. That's confirmed and will be available around the launch date. No confirmation of the 4GB model, but knowing Sapphire pricing approximately 42-44k.

will there be a 480X version later on??
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 19, 2016, 05:23:51 pm
will there be a 480X version later on??
If you're referring to a higher binned P10 chip, no. AMD has made clear than that the RX 480 is the full P10 chip.

As for the naming convention, they seem to be ditching the 'X' naming scheme. There will be higher end card/s based on the Vega chip, yet to see how they will be named.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 19, 2016, 05:25:43 pm
@cyberninja
people who spend $700-$1000 on vr likely to be powering them with cards like 1070 or above, and amd's big market for 480 and below series is going to be average gamers, just gamers who don't salivate over vr YET. so it's pointless to say 'hey it's vr ready' unless amd thinks people are stupid imo, it's like this,
 

amd could've gone just plain and said 'competitor, take this up your...' or something like that, but hey they are people with super duper business degrees, it might be the right move
Yes true. But the RX 480 is the first $199 GPU to be "VR Ready" and AMD is using this fact to market the card which I, as stated previously, think is a very good move.

will there be a 480X version later on??
Most probably no. The RX 480 is the last and most powerful GPU in the Polaris lineup. And besides that, RX 480X is a weird name for a GPU and doesn't sound very good.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 19, 2016, 05:32:15 pm
@ Zero. Will you be providing an option like trading an older card + money for a new card?  ;D
If so what kind of amount are we talking about here?  ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 19, 2016, 06:20:56 pm
@ Zero. Will you be providing an option like trading an older card + money for a new card?  ;D
If so what kind of amount are we talking about here?  ;D
That option is always available for any Sapphire or Palit card that's less  than two years old.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: NilFBosh on June 19, 2016, 06:23:06 pm
That option is always available for any Sapphire or Palit card that's less  than two years old.

Less than 2 years old meaning the card has to have at least 2 years of warranty left?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 19, 2016, 07:19:40 pm

Less than 2 years old meaning the card has to have at least 2 years of warranty left?
At least one year warranty left. Math, bruh.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 19, 2016, 08:09:40 pm
Ok let's assume I've a card like that.
In such a scenario how much should I pay more considering the previous cards price and the new ones?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 19, 2016, 10:16:35 pm
Ok let's assume I've a card like that.
In such a scenario how much should I pay more considering the previous cards price and the new ones?
Your trade in value would be calculated based on the current retail price of the card at the time of the trade in. If the card is from an older generation, we'll use a equivalent performing card from the current generation.

Example, say your 280X is 2 years old. It will perform similarly to a 380X, which was sold for 48k. If you had traded it in before the RX480 was announced, you would have received a trade in value of approximately 50%, which is 24k. Now that the RX 480 is available, you will probably receive a lower valuation depending on how much the equivalent next gen card would be.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 20, 2016, 04:39:01 pm
Is sapphire releasing different versions of the card like pre-overclocked ones? Or only one version available??
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 20, 2016, 06:54:10 pm
Is sapphire releasing different versions of the card like pre-overclocked ones? Or only one version available??
The Sapphire Nitro RX 480 CheezeGrater Edtion will be available soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/r6ST8Tq.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 20, 2016, 07:58:47 pm
reference one looked the most dope, but 2 fans and open coolers are always better, who care about looks, especially a bang for the buck card? 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 20, 2016, 09:34:05 pm
RX 480 leaks from china

http://imgur.com/gallery/N0sx7

So basically, 390x performance for 200$


(Credit to original uploader)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 20, 2016, 11:22:40 pm
let's not ride the hype train too much  :no:

after seeing this, it appearsm the only way is to buy and see for ourselves. at least it's not sapphire, read on,

http://videocardz.com/61121/asus-and-msi-accused-of-sending-modified-cards-to-the-press 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 20, 2016, 11:35:00 pm
let's not ride the hype train too much  :no:

after seeing this, it appearsm the only way is to buy and see for ourselves. at least it's not sapphire, read on,

http://videocardz.com/61121/asus-and-msi-accused-of-sending-modified-cards-to-the-press 

Those are for The nVidia cards though. AMD doesn't seem to have done anything shady, so far.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 21, 2016, 12:12:21 am
wrong! it's not nvidia or amd it's the damn aib partners, they can do whatever to the bios to boost it a lilbit to show an edge over others, wonder what msi would do to radeon? :P

corporate world is getting sicker and sicker.  :no:
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 21, 2016, 11:18:23 am
wrong! it's not nvidia or amd it's the damn aib partners, they can do whatever to the bios to boost it a lilbit to show an edge over others, wonder what msi would do to radeon? :P

corporate world is getting sicker and sicker.  :no:

Hahai meant that the cards that were boosted were not AMD cards, yes?

I doubt they would do it again since they were caught now, but who knows.

June 29th can't come soon enough :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 21, 2016, 07:21:03 pm
Woot!
Ordered 2x Sapphire RX480's
Can't wait to see the performance in person!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: cat eye on June 21, 2016, 09:23:16 pm
for fresh buyer yes geting new nvidia or amd cards is like heaven on earth there r absolute lucky,but for person who have gud 1080p capable gpu no point geting these cards unless going for 4k monitor with it ,im pretty sure lots of ppl in SL will getthese babes and playing games  again 1080p 60fps locked,at least wait some sometime to settle the prize nvidia stealing money from us fast as they can after rx 480 come out it will settle (I HOPE PLS GOD MAKE IT HAPPEN ;D)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: HeLLScrM^ on June 21, 2016, 09:24:43 pm
Woot!
Ordered 2x Sapphire RX480's
Can't wait to see the performance in person!

Damn bro, the 4GB or 8GB?

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 21, 2016, 11:27:31 pm
for fresh buyer yes geting new nvidia or amd cards is like heaven on earth there r absolute lucky,but for person who have gud 1080p capable gpu no point geting these cards unless going for 4k monitor with it

True enough mainly for 1080 for gamers.


 at least wait some sometime to settle the prize nvidia stealing money from us fast as they can after rx 480 come out it will settle (I HOPE PLS GOD MAKE IT HAPPEN ;D )

This is not true since price will not come down as you think, and RX 480 is no match to any of them. Its only the hype of AMD which is taking you guys to the brim of it.

Its an un born baby at this moment and we expect him to be a Prof of GPU in 5 days.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 21, 2016, 11:51:48 pm
This is not true since price will not come down as you think, and RX 480 is no match to any of them. Its only the hype of AMD which is taking you guys to the brim of it.

Its an un born baby at this moment and we expect him to be a Prof of GPU in 5 days.

Of course you'll say something like this because this news directly affects your business.

You should patner up with an AMD supplier
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 21, 2016, 11:59:27 pm
Of course you'll say something like this because this news directly affects your business.

You should patner up with an AMD supplier

No issues in few days or maximum few weeks u will know how well the new born can run. It will be just equal to or bit above the 970.

Overall with better NVDIA software NVIDIA will be better than the AMD. If AMD could come out with better software equal to GeForce experience then its fine.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on June 22, 2016, 12:06:38 am
You should patner up with an AMD supplier
I would suggest xfx if you ever consider this
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 22, 2016, 12:28:35 am
No issues in few days or maximum few weeks u will know how well the new born can run. It will be just equal to or bit above the 970.
Quoting this for future reference.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 22, 2016, 09:23:00 am
you sneaky sob
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 22, 2016, 09:27:50 am
Overall with better NVDIA software NVIDIA will be better than the AMD. If AMD could come out with better software equal to GeForce experience then its fine.
They are all similarly bad. I have a GTX 970 and GeForce Experience plays up every once in a while. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 22, 2016, 09:35:17 am
@anusha

quite opposite now actually, with amd's crimson things for amd users reported to be smoother. how ever i find my self reverting to older version whenever a new driver comes out of nvidia's hole, so many issues with many applications and games with newer and newer drivers. amd has the upper hand in driver support now.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 22, 2016, 09:37:48 am
@anusha

quite opposite now actually, with amd's crimson things for amd users reported to be smoother. how ever i find my self reverting to older version whenever a new driver comes out of nvidia's hole, so many issues with many applications and games with newer and newer drivers. amd has the upper hand in driver support now.
Well, I don't have any recent first hand experience with AMD so I cannot agree nor disagree. I was just saying NVidia's driver support is not as good as some people claim to be. Only that. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 22, 2016, 02:16:25 pm
Overall with better NVDIA software NVIDIA will be better than the AMD. If AMD could come out with better software equal to GeForce experience then its fine.

Really? You are wrong in so many levels (no offence). Yes there was a time NVIDIA had the better software but times have changed. As a retailer you should not favor one over the other in my opinion. If it's true that's fine but this isn't even remotely true.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 22, 2016, 06:42:06 pm
Really? You are wrong in so many levels (no offence). Yes there was a time NVIDIA had the better software but times have changed. As a retailer you should not favor one over the other in my opinion. If it's true that's fine but this isn't even remotely true.

As a vendor we go by the market demand

http://wccftech.com/amd-cpu-gpu-market-share-q1-2016/

3 out of 4 GPU sold is NVIDIA and all those guys cant be that stupid. That does not mean to say those 25% is, each one has their taste n nothing can change that. Even today you get some asking for AMD CPU so its like that.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 22, 2016, 07:32:38 pm
As a vendor we go by the market demand

3 out of 4 GPU sold is NVIDIA and all those guys cant be that stupid. That does not mean to say those 25% is, each one has their taste n nothing can change that.

As a vendor you should understand that your market falls down miserably.
And that's the reason you keep defending Nvidia & shitting on AMD right now. That's one obvious fact.

And according to your logic from those 3 out of 4 guys, at least one is actually stupid & goes for a Nvidia because this is Sri Lanka and according to some Sri Lankans, there is nothing better than Nvidia.

And your 3 out of 4 fraction is outdated for several years. People favour AMD over Nvidia right now specially because of the pricing & best bang for buck.

Lets assume that AT PRESENT the people who buy Nvidia & AMD split equally. 50-50.
You loose 50% of the market for the reason that you do not sell and AMD GPUs.

Then lets take the other 50% split to
1. dumb people 
2.not dumb but the matter of taste people.

Lets take number 2.
You only sell Zotac GPUs. The are 5 main available nvidia product suplliers namely Asus, MSi, Gigabyte, Zotac & Palit to my knowledge. from those 5, you only have 1.
So in number 2. Not dumb but matter of taste people will go over your Zotac to an Asus or a gigabyte or a MSI, just because it's a matter of taste.

So from that number 2. taste people you loose about 80% of potential buyers because you only have Zotac.

And then take number 1. Dumb people
Tell me now, how popular is your shop? Many people haven't even heard of it.
People may praise or critisize Redline but the fact remains that they are a well known company.
And before or after that comes the unity plaza shops like Barclays & TechZone. Where the dumbest people go to.
So from that number 1.Dumb People, you again loose a chunk of sales because your marketing is shit.


So when you calculate those odds together you only cover like about 7-8% of the Sri Lankan VGA market.
And on the other hand, Redline rules the 50% AMD buyers. (Atleast a good 40-45% of it) and also the Nvidia (like maybe 25% of it) thanks to their variability, marketing and reputation. (Ok there is some bad rep too) And the rest is covered by other shops in unity & etc.

And by the way, the set of dumb people are growing less and less and AMD sales keep rising & Nvidia keeps dropping so you are giving such an effort to cling to that 7-8%.

That's why you've become desperate like this. That's why you make shit logic about an unborn baby.

Best thing for you to do is patner up I guess. And not stick to one solution for all the answers.
I'd very much like for at least another shop to compete with redline. Then both will keep each other in check and provide a good service.
Sadly you can't make it because your thinking is limited I guess.

If it were me, I think I would partner up. Well me & my logic could well be wrong  ;D I just stated what I think I understand.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 22, 2016, 11:13:26 pm
did you just type all that?  :D
for a sec i thought it was zero  :P

but I think he (EGS) knows more in terms of demand and ACTUAL buyers who walks into his store and asks for a vga, let's not forget this is sri lanka and this is just an online forum, not an actual storefront ,because he is in business for a long time and there are still a lot of people who don't even care about what the internet forums say, recent 'review sample vga bios scam' convinced me to similar attitude.

so you can just math out  all 3 out of 4 people and 50 -50 idiot and genius theories, in the end  he is still getting sales and bringing new pascal cards from zotac for very competitive price, yes he only gets zotac, you have to understand that, all people
are not that specific to aib partners to the level of actual chip maker, that's how he is still in business. not only EGS but techzone, barclays also.  you have to respect that. let's be fair here.

other than that,  I agree redline monopoly is growing, yes,  for a healthy competition he is in serious need of some amd supply. and of course some revamped and frequently updated price list  (Y) 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 22, 2016, 11:48:04 pm
Thanks Alucard for your lengthy reply. I hv just this to say;

1. 75% what I picked was the very latest figure n its not SL market which is peanuts for all, and sadly u n me and all others r part of this.

2. We r very happy that Redline is doing well since we have more business fm that.
 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 22, 2016, 11:58:55 pm
2. We r very happy that Redline is doing well since we have more business fm that.

Yeah I guessed you should have some stuff going.

I just pointed out the things I see from my end basically supposing you work alone.
I don't have a clue of the business inside & between yours.



 recent 'review sample vga bios scam' convinced me to similar attitude.

both sides have done similar things. But after a while it all fades away when some other new, hot news come up. Like politics.


And btw, I'm not glad you have some cheeky stuff with Redline.  ;D
Now it seems to that even the little competition that we  thought which exist was went away by  this newly revealed partnership.  :P
Anyway good luck with your business.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 23, 2016, 12:38:36 am
 ;D ;D ;D alucard

btw zero, any news on 470 and 460? I believe they are getting released on 29 too, why aren't they listed on your price list? the same 'for some reason'??
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 23, 2016, 01:27:10 am
btw zero, any news on 470 and 460? I believe they are getting released on 29 too, why aren't they listed on your price list? the same 'for some reason'??
Any news? Yes. I can tell you they won't be launching on the 29th.

MSRP works in mysterious ways. AIB partners sometimes end up with a complete product in their hands ready to launch in a day or two without knowing how much to sell it for until the official announcement.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Roran on June 23, 2016, 06:59:11 am
Any news? Yes. I can tell you they won't be launching on the 29th.

MSRP works in mysterious ways. AIB partners sometimes end up with a complete product in their hands ready to launch in a day or two without knowing how much to sell it for until the official announcement.
In USD terms the current expectation seems to be: 480 - USD 199, 470 - USD 149, 460 - USD 99. Looks right, as AMD probably will want to keep 480 cannibalism to a minimum. So with that in mind is it right to assume our prices will be around 26-28k for the 470 and 19-21k for the 460?

And another question on trade ins: I've got a 380 nitro bought last august. What sort of trade in value can I expect for this? Will be the key factor to decide whether I'm going to jump on the 480 bandwagon or not...

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 23, 2016, 08:27:19 am
Alucard and Mr.Rajiv, please take your arguments somewhere else.
People view this thread for news on the new cards, They don't expect two Reputable members of this forum arguing here  :)

Anyway, getting back onto topic-
Tech-Youtubers have Received Their Review Units*! I can't Wait for their Benchmarks!

*Sources-
Linus (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-ioBzSbDn/?hl=en)
Luke (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-KqygFNr9/?hl=en)
Edgar (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-J1KVy-_W/?hl=en)
Paul (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-aTZ2FDFZ/?hl=en)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 23, 2016, 09:03:25 am
In USD terms the current expectation seems to be: 480 - USD 199, 470 - USD 149, 460 - USD 99. Looks right, as AMD probably will want to keep 480 cannibalism to a minimum. So with that in mind is it right to assume our prices will be around 26-28k for the 470 and 19-21k for the 460?
The conversion rate you're looking at is around 200-210 x USD. So a $100 MSRP product would cost 20-22k and a $150 product would cost 30-32k. At launch prices are a bit inflated so you'll be looking at the higher end of the spectrum.


And another question on trade ins: I've got a 380 nitro bought last august. What sort of trade in value can I expect for this? Will be the key factor to decide whether I'm going to jump on the 480 bandwagon or not...

Fingers crossed!
Probably around 18-20k
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 23, 2016, 09:33:12 am
Alucard and Mr.Rajiv, please take your arguments somewhere else.
People view this thread for news on the new cards, They don't expect two Reputable members of this forum arguing here  :)

Anyway, getting back onto topic-
Tech-Youtubers have Received Their Review Units*! I can't Wait for their Benchmarks!

*Sources-
Linus (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-ioBzSbDn/?hl=en)
Luke (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-KqygFNr9/?hl=en)
Edgar (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-J1KVy-_W/?hl=en)
Paul (https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-aTZ2FDFZ/?hl=en)
Its allways better 2 hv the + n - of a product so Alucard n Zero r in same side n with most others like to defend their side with all the +++ of AMD. So who will tell the 4- of AMD
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 23, 2016, 09:52:20 am
Its allways better 2 hv the + n - of a product so Alucard n Zero r in same side n with most others like to defend their side with all the +++ of AMD. So who will tell the 4- of AMD
Look at my sig. See the card I'm running? I'll tell you the +/- of both sides. You'll tell me the + of one side and the - of the other side (which mostly turns out to be untrue because you've been listening to the wrong people).
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 23, 2016, 11:54:54 am
As a vendor we go by the market demand

http://wccftech.com/amd-cpu-gpu-market-share-q1-2016/

3 out of 4 GPU sold is NVIDIA and all those guys cant be that stupid. That does not mean to say those 25% is, each one has their taste n nothing can change that. Even today you get some asking for AMD CPU so its like that.
You simply can't judge a item by it's market demand. Like I mentioned earlier yes NVIDIA had the upper hand for sometime but now the picture is bit different. As a vendor ofc you can go by the market demand but that doesn't mean you can spread false information. That's why I said as a retailer you shouldn't take sides.

What's wrong with AMD CPUs? Yeah INTEL is better but that doesn't mean AMD is bad. People still go for AMD for their prices.

wccftech ? really?

I'm not defending anyone nor I ever will be. Whatever the brand is I go for the better item in that period. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: CheapNoob on June 23, 2016, 12:07:11 pm
Am surprised people aren't considering/talking about Nanotek Solutions. From what I've seen/heard they're actually not bad and their staff are actually knowledgeable on their tech. Tho warranty and RMA'ing are still yet to be spoken of.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 23, 2016, 01:28:48 pm
CPU? did anyone talked about any cpu here truckice?
read posts thoroughly before replying, kando what are you doing man?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 23, 2016, 01:38:24 pm
CPU? did anyone talked about any cpu here truckice?
read posts thoroughly before replying, kando what are you doing man?

FYI I read thoroughly. If you can do the same that would be great.(no offence)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on June 23, 2016, 01:50:09 pm
Am surprised people aren't considering/talking about Nanotek Solutions. From what I've seen/heard they're actually not bad and their staff are actually knowledgeable on their tech. Tho warranty and RMA'ing are still yet to be spoken of.
Nanotek is just redline in disguise
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 23, 2016, 01:54:35 pm
Nanotek is just redline in disguise

now now! Don't get into conclusions so quickly!  ;D

Newly revealed evidence shows us that there are other parties involved  ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: CheapNoob on June 23, 2016, 02:00:10 pm
now now! Don't get into conclusions so quickly!  ;D

Newly revealed evidence shows us that there are other parties involved  ;D
WUT! WUT! BUT HOW?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 23, 2016, 02:08:16 pm
FYI I read thoroughly. If you can do the same that would be great.(no offence)
No you didn't, your post showed that. answer me , who talked about cpu here ? on a graphics card thread?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 23, 2016, 02:09:54 pm
;D
So it's up to the customers to make intelligent decisions, there is a great conspiracy going on, don't buy the RX 480 yet. :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 23, 2016, 02:59:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933LBq34y8I

RX 480 running Overwatch maxed out at 4K. Oh boy oh boy.
Cant wait to see the actual numbers on the 29th!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 23, 2016, 05:46:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933LBq34y8I

RX 480 running Overwatch maxed out at 4K. Oh boy oh boy.
Cant wait to see the actual numbers on the 29th!

Got all sorts of tingly feelings watching that.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on June 23, 2016, 06:37:52 pm
out of curiosity any news on RX 490 and RX 490X? specs and release date?.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 23, 2016, 11:52:47 pm
So this guy (apparently) has a RX 480 and has tested some games on it.

Not sure his proper settings etc, but it doesn't seem to beat a 970 in most aspects, Either the card isn't that great or he's not doing it right

(I hope its the latter )

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc87nj5wQB4EK-Ssa1S9Dhg/videos
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 24, 2016, 12:02:13 am
The card doesn't have drivers yet.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 24, 2016, 12:04:23 am
The card doesn't have drivers yet.

Was just going to edit my post with that, Saw a comment mentioning something along those lines.
 
Fingers crossed :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 24, 2016, 12:43:53 am
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-rx-470-3dmark-performance/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0b-lBEkfjg

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 24, 2016, 01:32:19 am
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-rx-470-3dmark-performance/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0b-lBEkfjg



It's a fake video apparently.

Also the system specs

Quote
GTX 970 system:

5820K @ 4.4GHz - 4.0GHz Uncore
3000MHz Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4
ASUS X99-A
EVGA GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+
Qnix 1440p @ 96Hz

RX 480 system:

RX 480 8GB
i5-6400
2x4GB 2133MHz DDR4
1TB 7200RPM HDD

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 24, 2016, 04:59:48 am
So this guy (apparently) has a RX 480 and has tested some games on it.

Not sure his proper settings etc, but it doesn't seem to beat a 970 in most aspects, Either the card isn't that great or he's not doing it right

(I hope its the latter )

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc87nj5wQB4EK-Ssa1S9Dhg/videos

Hmm interesting. Although I'm more curious as to how this guy is breaking the NDA and also how he got his review card :O

The card doesn't have drivers yet.
Pretty sure the people who got the review cards also got the day 1 drivers as well. Polaris has been in development for quite some time and it doesn't make sense that they don't have a proper driver for the card when the release date is so close.

out of curiosity any news on RX 490 and RX 490X? specs and release date?.
Soon™. Raja Koduri posted some teasers on his twitter like very recently.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 24, 2016, 08:51:12 am
I meant public drivers, sorry. Reviewers were probably given the launch driver.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 24, 2016, 09:01:04 am
For the love of god DO NOT TRUST wccftech.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on June 24, 2016, 11:54:32 am
Soon™. Raja Koduri posted some teasers on his twitter like very recently.

hope they release it's specs soon maybe next month. :yes:

i hope this is good as they say if not AMD in big trouble.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 24, 2016, 01:06:15 pm
Wouldn't that also mean the person who posted the videos had the drivers as well?

Looks like he took down the videos though.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 24, 2016, 01:10:39 pm
Wouldn't that also mean the person who posted the videos had the drivers as well?

Looks like he took down the videos though.
It's more plausible that he just got a pre-ordered card earlier than expected. Manufacturers started shipping cards last week.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 24, 2016, 01:55:03 pm
It's more plausible that he just got a pre-ordered card earlier than expected. Manufacturers started shipping cards last week.

That's true. Wouldn't the card come with a Driver CD Though?

Nonetheless, 29th Can't come soon enouhg

P.S Kando#11498 <-- BattleTag, Overwatch :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KauBoy on June 24, 2016, 05:09:37 pm
That's true. Wouldn't the card come with a Driver CD Though?

Nonetheless, 29th Can't come soon enouhg

P.S Kando#11498 <-- BattleTag, Overwatch :)

seeing your sig makes me sad kando :((((((((((
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on June 24, 2016, 08:59:24 pm
It is conformed fellas, not just firestrike score,  in actual games 480 is in fact on par with the damn 980, and it's also confirmed to oc to almost 1600mhz, these were thought and said to be rumors by nv fans, however now those wccftech guys seems to have a review sample themselves too, so they confirmed it in comments passively.


ps - stick to the topic mods, who else like duckface droids? 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 26, 2016, 07:34:48 am
Lol BH Photo has the XFX RX-480 up for pre-order for $285 excluding shipping and tax.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1261505-REG

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 26, 2016, 07:38:13 am
Lol BH Photo has the XFX RX-480 up for pre-order for $285 excluding shipping and tax.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1261505-REG


Reports are saying there is no supply issue like the GeForce cards and not to preorder at higher prices.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 26, 2016, 07:42:42 am
Reports are saying there is no supply issue like the GeForce cards and not to preorder at higher prices.

In the united states, yes. No stock issue.
But I don't know about local stocks, surely limited to maybe a dozen or two on launch day.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 26, 2016, 12:02:23 pm
Join The Uprising!
http://gamer.lk/index.php?topic=31971.new#new
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on June 26, 2016, 03:03:03 pm
Finally something under 50k and performs more than twice as my card. Time to upgrade. You can't make me go Nvidia this time Redline.  :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 26, 2016, 09:42:30 pm
seeing your sig makes me sad kando :((((((((((

I know :(


On topic:

Just three more days!! I hear Redline might already have the card :o Hope they've been stress testing it, Can't wait for the 29th to see the performance, Might finally be my time to upgrade :')
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 27, 2016, 09:28:02 pm
http://videocardz.com/61422/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-6

AMD Radeon RX 480 failed to OC to 1400 MHz

Like I said 2 days ago, most review samples are having trouble reaching anything beyond 1350 MHz. The highest reported clock is 1379 MHz. The member of the PCGamesHardware team confirmed that their sample did not reach 1400 MHz
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 27, 2016, 10:40:55 pm
RX 480 Leaked unboxing + Game benchmaks

http://imgur.com/a/3iTkS

Looks like we're looking at performance between a 970 and 980 (it's slower than the 980 in FireStrike extreme but pretty much on par with the normal FireStrike)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 27, 2016, 10:57:13 pm
http://videocardz.com/61422/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-6

AMD Radeon RX 480 failed to OC to 1400 MHz

Like I said 2 days ago, most review samples are having trouble reaching anything beyond 1350 MHz. The highest reported clock is 1379 MHz. The member of the PCGamesHardware team confirmed that their sample did not reach 1400 MHz


https://www.techpowerup.com/223669/geforce-gtx-pascal-faces-high-dvi-pixel-clock-booting-problems

Too bad for anyone trying to run a high refresh rate monitor off DVI on a Pascal card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 27, 2016, 11:18:30 pm
https://www.techpowerup.com/223669/geforce-gtx-pascal-faces-high-dvi-pixel-clock-booting-problems

Too bad for anyone trying to run a high refresh rate monitor off DVI on a Pascal card.

What 2 do so much into gaming n still acts like a noob, after buying 1070/1080 who is going 2 use a DVI ? may be u.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 27, 2016, 11:40:08 pm
What 2 do so much into gaming n still acts like a noob, after buying 1070/1080 who is going 2 use a DVI ? may be u.
Erm, it has nothing to do with dual-DVI and everything to do with anyone who has a high refresh rate 2K panel (that sometimes only come with DVI and HDMI) not being able to boot your PC if you set the refresh rate too high. Might I add, the GTX 1070 is one of the best solutions available for a high refresh rate 2K monitor, so a lot of people who switched to 2K early will run into this problem.

I wish that Nvidia figures out a solution for this issue because this is just unfortunate. Luckily the 970 issue didn't really come back to bite them. Hope this doesn't either. The 1070 is a nice card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 28, 2016, 02:34:21 pm
Not just VR-Capable, but VR-Ready :)

(http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-SteamVR-test-OC-489x900.jpg)

(Source: videocardz.com)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 28, 2016, 02:57:00 pm
Not just VR-Capable, but VR-Ready :)

(http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-SteamVR-test-OC-489x900.jpg)

(Source: videocardz.com)

Zer0 do you'll plan on getting down vr headsets?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 28, 2016, 03:00:48 pm
Zer0 do you'll plan on getting down vr headsets?
When they affordable.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 28, 2016, 04:14:02 pm
Just a little PSA: The card that will be released on the 29th is just the reference RX 480. If you want full board partner cards (ones with custom coolers etc.) you'll have to wait a bit longer.

But i'll admit the stock RX 480 looks very sleek, just hoping its thermal performance is up to the mark.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 28, 2016, 04:21:35 pm
What 2 do so much into gaming n still acts like a noob, after buying 1070/1080 who is going 2 use a DVI ? may be u.
I have a 1440P panel that doesn't 100Hz refresh rate and only has a dual DVI-D port. This will be a deal breaker for me. Replacing the display is not a feasible option.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on June 28, 2016, 04:52:37 pm
Egs just buthurt as they dont have the rx480
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 28, 2016, 05:02:22 pm
Egs just buthurt as they dont have the rx480

*inserts Jim Carrey's Tell me More meme*
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 28, 2016, 10:37:25 pm
(http://i63.tinypic.com/qrxfmp.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: NilFBosh on June 28, 2016, 10:43:51 pm
:')
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 28, 2016, 10:45:18 pm
(http://i63.tinypic.com/qrxfmp.jpg)

We welcome the RX480;

Now this was not done by us;

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-gaming-performance-review-leaked/ (http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-gaming-performance-review-leaked/)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4q80xw/polish_magazine_reviews_rx480/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4q80xw/polish_magazine_reviews_rx480/)


May be fake, this is what most of you guys would say, and hope it be so that these 10 cards move.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 28, 2016, 10:50:09 pm
(http://i63.tinypic.com/qrxfmp.jpg)

Why you gotta do me like that :'(
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 28, 2016, 10:53:07 pm
Just a simple question, Can these guys allways fake the results, why should they do may be for money but the credibility of the posting guy, Video Cardz
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 28, 2016, 11:01:57 pm
May be fake, this is what most of you guys would say, and hope it be so that these 10 cards move.
Oh don't worry, these aren't the only cards we got and they'll move themselves easily. I've personally tested these and they perform as expected. Either you can add something that I don't already know or go do some brainstorming on how to sell your remaining 970 stock by tomorrow :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 28, 2016, 11:06:39 pm
Just a simple question, Can these guys allways fake the results, why should they do may be for money but the credibility of the posting guy, Video Cardz

The thing is, results are very contrasting at the moment. At a MINIMUM though, the card performs similarly/slightly better than a 970 and at a maximum close/surpassing the 980. (based on various "leaks")

To be honest even the minimum of 970 performance for 200$ is pretty good, if I'm not mistaken :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on June 28, 2016, 11:29:23 pm
TWO OF THOSE BABIES ARE MIIIINE.
Zer0 at what time can j get them tomorrow?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 28, 2016, 11:31:19 pm
Embargo lifts at 6.30 pm. You can pick one up then :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 28, 2016, 11:49:37 pm
The thing is, results are very contrasting at the moment. At a MINIMUM though, the card performs similarly/slightly better than a 970 and at a maximum close/surpassing the 980. (based on various "leaks")

To be honest even the minimum of 970 performance for 200$ is pretty good, if I'm not mistaken :D

Yes true, since if they sell it less than the 970 it's a worthy buy.
For your information the 1060 amp will be out next month n it's going to be priced at par to this....

As u may not know, the 1060 will be ahead of this 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 28, 2016, 11:54:54 pm
Yes true, since if they sell it less than the 970 it's a worthy buy.
For your information the 1060 amp will be out next month n it's going to be priced at par to this....

As u may not know, the 1060 will be ahead of this 480.

Saw a leaked picture, If the 1060 is 200$ and outperforms the 480 I'm sure everyone will go for it. :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on June 29, 2016, 05:41:00 am
RX 480 is up for grabs?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 29, 2016, 06:41:12 am
Saw a leaked picture, If the 1060 is 200$ and outperforms the 480 I'm sure everyone will go for it. :D
if the roadmap was correct, it should be equivalent to a RX 480. They better do it fast though. Every AMD driver they release from now until then will only make the RX 480 faster.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 29, 2016, 09:18:35 am
http://videocardz.com/61422/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-6

AMD Radeon RX 480 failed to OC to 1400 MHz

Like I said 2 days ago, most review samples are having trouble reaching anything beyond 1350 MHz. The highest reported clock is 1379 MHz. The member of the PCGamesHardware team confirmed that their sample did not reach 1400 MHz

So what's the problem? There was rumor that it can be OC to 1600mhz but that doesn't mean it must. It was just a rumor. So I don't se ur point. sorry.
Yes true, since if they sell it less than the 970 it's a worthy buy.
For your information the 1060 amp will be out next month n it's going to be priced at par to this....

As u may not know, the 1060 will be ahead of this 480.
Another paper launch? yei!!!!! There are no information about 1060 other than the timely leaked photo. So how are you so sure about 1060 outperforming RX480? May be it will who knows but nobody can say for sure.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Lashan Wanniarachchi on June 29, 2016, 10:19:38 am
You guys need to chill. Just wait till proper reviews are done on those new cards. It's not like they're gonna stop manufacturing them after a day or two.

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/8J4CW/patience-you-must-have/image.png?w=500&c=1)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on June 29, 2016, 03:33:28 pm
2h 30m to go
Cant wait to get my rx480
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 29, 2016, 05:05:37 pm
First review drops in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJBaZ9V2Eo
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 29, 2016, 06:42:35 pm
First review drops in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJBaZ9V2Eo
Nah he is biased. Comparing oc 970 to stock RX 480 with older drivers? I call bullshit.
Check these out instead.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,1.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 29, 2016, 06:49:11 pm
Like I said, performs as expected. Slightly faster than a GTX 970, slightly slower than a GTX 980. GGWP for 43k.

(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/perfrel_3840_2160.png)

In our testing, Witcher 3 maxed out a 2k the 980 is around 3-4 FPS faster (mid 40s).
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 29, 2016, 06:57:30 pm
But once you count in overclocking, the 970 can be easily 20% faster than the RX480, which is disappointing. How come it doesn't overclock well? :/

It's not a 4K card. The difference is less at 1440P and 1080P.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 29, 2016, 07:04:57 pm
Like I said, performs as expected. Slightly faster than a GTX 970, slightly slower than a GTX 980. GGWP for 43k.

(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/perfrel_3840_2160.png)

In our testing, Witcher 3 maxed out a 2k the 980 is around 3-4 FPS faster (mid 40s).
I would very much like to say "I told you so" to the people who were taking crap about RX 480.(Thats what happens when they get their information from clickbait sites without doing a proper research)
But once you count in overclocking, the 970 can be easily 20% faster than the RX480, which is disappointing. How come it doesn't overclock well? :/

It's not a 4K card. The difference is less at 1440P and 1080P.

It does overclock well. Check out other reviews.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 29, 2016, 07:13:23 pm
But once you count in overclocking, the 970 can be easily 20% faster than the RX480, which is disappointing. How come it doesn't overclock well? :/
It overclocks fairly decently according to may sources. I'll be doing a few test later on. Also, AIB cards will have 1400ish core clocks.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Arceus on June 29, 2016, 07:17:24 pm
In our testing, Witcher 3 maxed out a 2k the 980 is around 3-4 FPS faster (mid 40s).

(http://media.bestofmicro.com/ext/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9WL1IvNTkyMTE5L29yaWdpbmFsL3dpdGNoZXItZnBzLTI1eDE0LnBuZw==/r_600x450.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 29, 2016, 07:35:41 pm
I'm yet to see a reviewer achieving a 100MHz overclock.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on June 29, 2016, 07:38:51 pm
I'm yet to see a reviewer achieving a 100MHz overclock.
PCGH managed 1350Mhz. It's a power limitation on the reference cards apparently. An extra power connector should fix it.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 29, 2016, 07:48:55 pm
PCGH managed 1350Mhz. It's a power limitation on the reference cards apparently. An extra power connector should fix it.
Yes that's less than 100MHz.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 29, 2016, 07:54:48 pm
Yes that's less than 100MHz.

What is the problem again if u don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on June 29, 2016, 10:03:31 pm
What is the problem again if u don't mind me asking?

Are u the Chairman of AMD ? or paid Chairman  just want to know, I dont know what u hv in your mind. You cannot make 1+1 = 3 or 100.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 30, 2016, 04:18:25 am
I'm yet to see a reviewer achieving a 100MHz overclock.
Wccf tech achieved 1.8GHz ;D

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 30, 2016, 04:37:26 am
What is the problem again if u don't mind me asking?
Problem is, why doesn't it overclock well.

If it is a power issue, why didn't they just add a 8 pin power connector. If they weren't crazy about overclocking, why did they build a new application? It just doesn't make sense.

Let's see if AIB partners can improve on this. Probably there isn't much they can do with a $199 envelope .

Wccf tech achieved 1.8GHz ;D
Right! /s
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 30, 2016, 06:22:00 am
Probably there isn't much they can do with a $199 envelope .
Pretty much. The $199 model (the reference card) is aimed at the budget mainstream market and 90% of those gamers probably will never overclock their card. It sort of makes sense.

I'm just gonna wait a bit longer and see if the AIB cards actually fix this problem (they probably will). My guess is it's that one 6 pin connector but there's also some talk about the reference cards being BIOS locked.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 30, 2016, 06:36:37 am
PCPer says that every card actually comes with 8GB RAM with the 4GB model having half of its RAM disabled. Probably people will be able to unlock all of it with flashing a patched BIOS.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 30, 2016, 09:16:37 am
Are u the Chairman of AMD ? or paid Chairman  just want to know, I dont know what u hv in your mind. You cannot make 1+1 = 3 or 100.
Did I try to make 1+1 = 3 or 100? Did I favor one brand over the other? I spoke the truth and it hurts for the people who spread lies for their advantage. Now the benchmarks are out everybody knows who spoke shit on purpose. Anymore wccftech news that you can share with us or things bad about AMD without any evidence?
Problem is, why doesn't it overclock well.

If it is a power issue, why didn't they just add a 8 pin power connector. If they weren't crazy about overclocking, why did they build a new application? It just doesn't make sense.

Let's see if AIB partners can improve on this. Probably there isn't much they can do with a $199 envelope .
Right! /s
Well tbh this being the reference card you can't except too much. And you have to keep in mind it has 6 pin power connector and even if there is headroom you can't go crazy with the overclocking. Not to mention the blower type cooler.
They didn't add a 8 pin power connector coz you don't need one. If you want to OC the shit out your card you won't be buying the reference card anyway. (as I understand it)
Just coz they build a new application doesn't mean the card must OC. It might be useful for the newer cards. Time will tell.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Ghostrider on June 30, 2016, 09:56:38 am
It's better to avoid the reference card for now. Reviewers clam that card draws more than rated power from the motherboard.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on June 30, 2016, 12:26:52 pm
So funny seeing some people biching about less overclocking and less performance than 980. WTH, It's a god damn 239$ card. There is no any other graphic card on earth right now at that price point with better performance. So what the fuss. I also have an Nvidia card, I bought it because it was the fastest when i was buying it at 60K price point. I was going for a 7950. I would gladly switch to a RX480 right now. Because it seems it performs almost twice as fast as my current card. [email protected] fanboys. lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 30, 2016, 12:35:49 pm
So funny seeing some people biching about less overclocking and less performance than 980. WTH, It's a god damn 239$ card. There is no any other graphic card on earth right now at that price point with better performance. So what the fuss. I also have an Nvidia card, I bought it because it was the fastest when i was buying it at 60K price point. I was going for a 7950. I would gladly switch to a RX480 right now. Because it seems it performs almost twice as fast as my current card. [email protected] fanboys. lol.
The issues it has does not make it THE CARD to get. Definitely not the 8GB variant, because the GTX 970 is only $40 more and runs cooler, quieter and has better performance when OCed. And you don't need 8GB 99% of the times of a midrange card.

4GB model is fine, or if you have a tight budget of $240. Even then, 4GB is the way to go with this card. No need to pay 20% more for almost 0% gain.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on June 30, 2016, 01:14:44 pm
First REAL screenshot of the Sapphire Nitro RX 480!

(https://i.imgur.com/RYKE2v4.jpg)

Looking really sleek. Also got RGB Lighting on the side (sapphire logo) which is nice to see on a budget card. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on June 30, 2016, 01:25:56 pm
GTX 970 is only $40 more and runs cooler, quieter and has better performance when OCed. And you don't need 8GB 99% of the times of a midrange card.

"$40 More", "better performance when OCed" lol. are u high bro?. That's the exact god damn point i was talking. This guy is like
"Hey, Get a Nissan GTR for $100,000 and turbocharge it, so you can beat $85,000 Dodge viper's 205mph Top speed" Maybe $40 more where u live. In SL 970 costs 60,000 (lets say 53,000) and RX480 is only 43000 Rupees. So? Why pay over 10000 more and overclock too when you can get a 480? Quiet and Cool? I don't feel the heat of my GPU, or the sound of it doesn't bother me. And i am not gonna meditate near the PC. And dont care about 8GB version. If someone wants more Vram because they modify games like skyrim, then they need 8gb. So they'll get it. And still, there aren't any 8GB nvidia cards at that price point faster than that. :P You my friend is a caveman who doesn't see the god damn reality. Higgs Boson please help him.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on June 30, 2016, 01:39:20 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5YrKM-M7pQ

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 30, 2016, 02:18:16 pm
The issues it has does not make it THE CARD to get. Definitely not the 8GB variant, because the GTX 970 is only $40 more and runs cooler, quieter and has better performance when OCed. And you don't need 8GB 99% of the times of a midrange card.

4GB model is fine, or if you have a tight budget of $240. Even then, 4GB is the way to go with this card. No need to pay 20% more for almost 0% gain.
Please do some research before commenting. Why would you go for a card which 1 1/2 year old, has vram issues(remember the 3.5 GB fiasco?) and yeah $40 more. Older architecture/ sucks at DX12 when compare to AMD counterparts etc.

Better performance when OCed? Well we don't know about the 480s OC potential of AiB partner cards and Who is gonna buy a card just coz it can be OCed and runs cooler? I mean seriously?

If you have a 970 now there is no point of getting 480 but if you have to choose between 970 and 480, 480 is the better choice IMHO.

About "you don't need 8GB" comment, did you see how much of vram used by newer games? May be they aren't optimized well but better to be safe since you are buying a card at least to use 2 years minimum.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on June 30, 2016, 02:33:03 pm
If you have 970 now there is no point of getting 480 but if you have to choose between 970 and 480, 480 is the better choice IMHO.

Yeah bro. Looks like he is upset about that he bought a 970. Because his card is getting passed by cheap $200 cards. Now he is trying to make others drop into the same hole where he has fallen. so he can be happy. lmao. And also even GTA V can easily fill 4GB vram. That guy maybe still playing 3 years old games. I would happily go for a 8GB. Better to be ready for future games.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 30, 2016, 02:43:46 pm
Yeah bro. Looks like he is upset about that he bought a 970. Because his card is getting passed by cheap $200 cards. Now he is trying to make others drop into the same hole where he has fallen. so he can be happy. lmao.

yeah mate I can't believe some people getting in to conclusions without doing a proper research. A simple googling will tell you most of the things that you need to know.

Edit - When it comes to DX12, 480 is better than even 980 on some games. Can a 970 do that?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Mesh_FTW on June 30, 2016, 04:36:21 pm
Annnnd the RX 480 8GB is 50K! WEW
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Legend_Killer on June 30, 2016, 05:14:21 pm
Yall fanboys need to chill. Ppl will buy whichever card they think is right for them, be it amd or nvidia, and it's not nice to call them out beause they didnt buy the thing you wanted them to buy.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 30, 2016, 07:28:46 pm
In the Sri Lanka market, the 8GB Variant of the RX 480 is roughly 10k less than a 4(3.5)GB GTX 970. And by all accounts they perform the same, so I think the 480 is the better buy, Although I'd recommend waiting for the 3rd party coolers, for the 8 pin connectors and the better temperature and overclocking abilities.

Also, You can't really say "without doing proper research" to anusha, While I don't agree with some of his points, he is one of the most knowledgeable people on this forums regarding hardware :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on June 30, 2016, 07:32:12 pm
Also, You can't really say "without doing proper research" to anusha, While I don't agree with some of his points, he is one of the most knowledgeable people on this forums regarding hardware :)

Yeah. He maybe favouring Nvidia over AMD, but I've always found his posts to be based on research & proper knowledge on technology
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 30, 2016, 07:50:10 pm
Yeah. He maybe favouring Nvidia over AMD, but I've always found his posts to be based on research & proper knowledge on technology

Well If I offended him I apologized but you all saw what he said. For me it looks like he doesn't know what hes talking about.(purely based on what he said on this thread) I can go into more details why 480 is the better choice but not gonna do that since people are already calling me a fanboy. For the record I don't favor one over the other simply coz I don't have any reason to do that. I wouldn't get anything even if I did so why bother? :P

Yall fanboys need to chill. Ppl will buy whichever card they think is right for them, be it amd or nvidia, and it's not nice to call them out beause they didnt buy the thing you wanted them to buy.

Yes I agree with you. People will buy whichever card they think is right for them but how can they do that when people are misleading them.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on June 30, 2016, 07:54:08 pm
"$40 More", "better performance when OCed" lol. are u high bro?. That's the exact god damn point i was talking. This guy is like
"Hey, Get a Nissan GTR for $100,000 and turbocharge it, so you can beat $85,000 Dodge viper's 205mph Top speed" Maybe $40 more where u live. In SL 970 costs 60,000 (lets say 53,000) and RX480 is only 43000 Rupees. So? Why pay over 10000 more and overclock too when you can get a 480? Quiet and Cool? I don't feel the heat of my GPU, or the sound of it doesn't bother me. And i am not gonna meditate near the PC. And dont care about 8GB version. If someone wants more Vram because they modify games like skyrim, then they need 8gb. So they'll get it. And still, there aren't any 8GB nvidia cards at that price point faster than that. :P You my friend is a caveman who doesn't see the god damn reality. Higgs Boson please help him.
Calling other people fanboys. Just...LOL.

Anyway, there is more to life than just FPS/$$$.

Yeah bro. Looks like he is upset about that he bought a 970. Because his card is getting passed by cheap $200 cards. Now he is trying to make others drop into the same hole where he has fallen. so he can be happy. lmao. And also even GTA V can easily fill 4GB vram. That guy maybe still playing 3 years old games. I would happily go for a 8GB. Better to be ready for future games.
So you think I would replace my 20 month old card that 'generally' performs better with the OC, quieter and cooler (in a case with a volume of 11.5 litres, it only goes up to 75C) with one that does not? Are you insane?...wait...YOU ARE. My mistake.

Like you, I paid for the card that was the best bang for the buck back when I bought it. How much did you pay for your 670? I'm sure you paid more than what I paid for my 970. And yours is half the speed of the RX480 and mine is still faster. And you are saying I am upset LOL. You are just someone who speaks nonsense just because you have a mouth.

OK, I am upset because they didn't release a card that I could upgrade to.

That said, if the RX480 is an upgrade, 4GB variant is worth getting. The 8GB is not. It's just a gimmick.

Yeah. He maybe favouring Nvidia over AMD, but I've always found his posts to be based on research & proper knowledge on technology
I'm not. I don't like them one bit. GeForce experience is terrible half the time and the input lag caused by NVidia drivers is insane!

I just want to see a card from AMD which I can upgrade to. I'm not telling anyone to get the GTX 970 over the RX480. I'm telling them not to get the 8GB version.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on June 30, 2016, 08:43:01 pm

I just want to see a card from AMD which I can upgrade to. I'm not telling anyone to get the GTX 970 over the RX480. I'm telling them not to get the 8GB version.

Why is that? I plan on getting one (depending on how the GTX 1060 turns out). The 8GB Variant is only 7k more, Why should I not go for it?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on June 30, 2016, 10:33:41 pm
Why is that? I plan on getting one (depending on how the GTX 1060 turns out). The 8GB Variant is only 7k more, Why should I not go for it?

Go for it. 4GB not gonna be enough sooner than you think despite what he says.

From the Gamers Nexus review:
Mirror's Edge Catalyst – VRAM Consumption
We haven't spent too much time fully validating system RAM and CPU consumption, but had a chance to look at VRAM utilization during our test passes. In just the few minutes tested on each configuration, 1080p / Hyper seems to be nearly maxing-out the GTX 1080 (7455MB consumed). 4K / High had us sitting at 6615MB, with 1080p / Ultra resting more easily at 5020MB.

Most probably the game is not optimized properly(not too sure didn't look in to it) but that's just a example what you are get in to in near future.

Rumor says 1060 will be revealed on 7 July so might as well wait and see so you can choose the better one.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 01, 2016, 03:03:25 am
Why is that? I plan on getting one (depending on how the GTX 1060 turns out). The 8GB Variant is only 7k more, Why should I not go for it?
If 7K is an insignificant amount of money, then fine.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 01, 2016, 07:09:15 am
If you're just gaming at 1080p, the 4GB variant is absolutely fine and it also gives the best value out of them all.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 01, 2016, 07:38:25 am
Did some OCing during the event yesterday. Managed to hit 5% on the new SW easily, which puts it very close to the stock 980 it was up against. Didn't have time to try any voltage tweaks. Will try today.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 01, 2016, 07:43:50 am
Did some OCing during the event yesterday. Managed to hit 5% on the new SW easily, which puts it very close to the stock 980 it was up against. Didn't have time to try any voltage tweaks. Will try today.
Don't forget to state the specs of the test setup and game/game settings when making such claims since there are games that run inherently well on one brand/architecture.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 01, 2016, 08:33:43 am
My mistake, I didn't know the 4GB variant runs at 7GHz on the memory. Sure you can overclock it to match the 8GB version, but you cannot be 100% sure that it will reach 8GHz. The memory on the 8GB variant could be binned to begin with.

This makes me change my stance a bit.

Get the 4GB version if budget is tight.
Get the 8GB version otherwise.

Happy now?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 01, 2016, 09:10:06 am
My mistake, I didn't know the 4GB variant runs at 7GHz on the memory. Sure you can overclock it to match the 8GB version, but you cannot be 100% sure that it will reach 8GHz. The memory on the 8GB variant could be binned to begin with.

This makes me change my stance a bit.

Get the 4GB version if budget is tight.
Get the 8GB version otherwise.

Happy now?

So basically what I was saying all along.

People believe me when I say this(or google and see) 4GB not gonna be enough sooner than you think. You are investing money on a GPU so you can at least use it for 2 years minimum(I know I do). You don't wanna regret it later on. If you absolutely cant find money at least try to wait for a while so you can save some money and get the 8GB version.(all depends on what games you are playing and what your other specs are) And for the love of god don't buy a GPU coz it can be OCed.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 01, 2016, 12:56:09 pm
Most of the reviewers were able to hit 1350MHz on the core and 8.8Gbps on the memory. With that, the reference 480 was still ahead of aftermarket 970s. In DX12 games, it was killing the GTX 970 (no surprises there). Pretty sure with the AIB cards you can easily get 1.4GHz on this card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 01, 2016, 01:12:01 pm
Most of the reviewers were able to hit 1350MHz on the core and 8.8Gbps on the memory. With that, the reference 480 was still ahead of aftermarket 970s. In DX12 games, it was killing the GTX 970 (no surprises there). Pretty sure with the AIB cards you can easily get 1.4GHz on this card.
And hopefully support for dual DVI-D outputs.

I'm waiting for the RX490. Not sure if it will be based on Vega though.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 01, 2016, 01:17:01 pm
Don't forget to state the specs of the test setup and game/game settings when making such claims since there are games that run inherently well on one brand/architecture.
i5 6500 + 8GB RAM. Was testing with both Witcher 3 and GTA V. It wasn't a thorough test by any means. Just turn up the clocks and run the games.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 01, 2016, 01:22:08 pm
after using this i can confirm its slots between the 970 and the 980
not bad for a card thats only 50k
cant wait to cf it
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 01, 2016, 04:55:31 pm
http://asidcast.com/amd-screws-up-as-rx-480-fails-pci-e-specifications-what-does-this-mean-for-gamers/

Just got this, those who like can read, others just omit it
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 01, 2016, 05:19:32 pm
http://asidcast.com/amd-screws-up-as-rx-480-fails-pci-e-specifications-what-does-this-mean-for-gamers/

Just got this, those who like can read, others just omit it
Sensationalist article is being sensationalist. Yes it's above PCI-e spec, but so are a few other popular cards, including one that you've been selling quite a bit.

This is the power consumption of the RX 480 taken from Toms Hardware (which is also used in that article).

(http://i0.wp.com/asidcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/15-Gaming-3D-PEG-Overwiew.png?w=600)


This is the power consumption of a GTX 750Ti. Again from the same reviewer, so the results are comparative.

(http://media.bestofmicro.com/2/W/422600/original/01-GTX-750-Ti-Complete-Gaming-Loop-170-seconds.png)


If the GTX 750Ti hasn't caused issues over the past two years, then the RX 480 will be fine.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 01, 2016, 07:34:58 pm
egs still but-hurt about not having the rx480
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 01, 2016, 08:27:00 pm
egs still but-hurt about not having the rx480

Common Janith, y should i be hurt, when your friend came he said the same i told him we were feeling sorry for u guys. At least the non reference would hv been better.

But RL did a great job bringing the 10 cards n marketing it without much hassle. I can remember when once ZAFRAN saying we know how 2 market stuff. Thats quite true. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 01, 2016, 08:32:37 pm
Actually, pretty much every reviewer who reviewed the card agreed that it's a great card for the price. There was no 'marketing' to be done apart from just having products available.

Also, 10 cards? LOL.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 01, 2016, 10:25:29 pm
Common Janith, y should i be hurt, when your friend came he said the same i told him we were feeling sorry for u guys. At least the non reference would hv been better.

But RL did a great job bringing the 10 cards n marketing it without much hassle. I can remember when once ZAFRAN saying we know how 2 market stuff. Thats quite true.
i bought the ref blower style as i plan to cf the cards
and all u do is tell us how nvidia did something better than amd with no proof
the rx480 doesnt need marketing as its a great card and will sell more than what u have to sell,so without making this a nvidia fanboy page use ur own page to display ur nvidia love
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on July 01, 2016, 10:27:08 pm
i bought the ref blower style as i plan to cf the cards
and all u do is tell us how nvidia did something better than amd with no proof
the rx480 doesnt need marketing as its a great card and will sell more than what u have to sell,so without making this a nvidia fanboy page use ur own page to display ur nvidia love


You have a 980Ti and bought RX 480's ?

In other news, a few 1060 leaks put it near the 980 at a 300 Dollars price point (or 300 pounds)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 01, 2016, 10:34:26 pm
In other news, a few 1060 leaks put it near the 980 at a 300 Dollars price point (or 300 pounds)
It's supposed to be slightly faster than a 980, but not as powerful as a 980Ti, so around a non-X Fury.

Price is likely to be $250 for the 3GB and 300 for the 6GB, which seems a little bit high considering what the RX 480 offers.

Of course, it's not going to be as fast as a Zotac 970.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 01, 2016, 10:46:42 pm
http://asidcast.com/amd-screws-up-as-rx-480-fails-pci-e-specifications-what-does-this-mean-for-gamers/

Just got this, those who like can read, others just omit it

ha ha ha ha. I was waiting for you to come up with this. And dude where do you find these sites? Btw bios update is probably all that's needed and the 480 is good to go. Do us a favor and please read some articles about the problem and try to understand what it is other than b***hing about it.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 01, 2016, 10:55:10 pm
It's supposed to be slightly faster than a 980, but not as powerful as a 980Ti, so around a non-X Fury.

Price is likely to be $250 for the 3GB and 300 for the 6GB, which seems a little bit high considering what the RX 480 offers.

Of course, it's not going to be as fast as a Zotac 970.

It's gonna be another paper launch. Look at the prices of 1070 and 1080s in other countries.

Btw I heard Dice is working closely with AMD to fine tune the DX12 for BF1. Then we will see where that precious 970 gonna end up.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Chayan4400 on July 02, 2016, 02:34:18 am
I'm in a bit of a muddle here. I've set my eyes on the 480 4GB (Because budget is super tight and it's for 1080p) but I've got serious doubts how my el cheapo motherboard is going to hold up to the out-of-spec power draws. Should I wait for AIB cards or just risk it?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 02, 2016, 04:19:32 am

You have a 980Ti and bought RX 480's ?

In other news, a few 1060 leaks put it near the 980 at a 300 Dollars price point (or 300 pounds)
That indeed is going against the norm. Normally people go from two cards to one card after getting fed up with the issues.


Single card is less trouble, even if it is more expensive and doesn't give as high FPS as two cards at the same price.

And DX12 is still unexplored territory and we don't know how multi GPU scaling will turn out to be in the future. For current DX12 games, the scaling is not impressive.

I'm in a bit of a muddle here. I've set my eyes on the 480 4GB (Because budget is super tight and it's for 1080p) but I've got serious doubts how my el cheapo motherboard is going to hold up to the out-of-spec power draws. Should I wait for AIB cards or just risk it?
Wait for the AIB vendor cards. They'll fix it.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 02, 2016, 07:33:31 am
Some more shots of the Nitro RX 480 (not a rumor)

(http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2016/07/01074015752l.jpg)

(http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2016/07/01074015365l.jpg)

Thumbs up for the added DVI port (Y) compared to the reference model.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 02, 2016, 08:54:41 am
I'm in a bit of a muddle here. I've set my eyes on the 480 4GB (Because budget is super tight and it's for 1080p) but I've got serious doubts how my el cheapo motherboard is going to hold up to the out-of-spec power draws. Should I wait for AIB cards or just risk it?

If I was you I will wait for the AIB cards simply coz I don't like that blower type cooler. Since you are concerned about the power draw just watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFuYc2FHgjw

960 could (and did) draw 250W and nobody gave a shit. When handful of AMD cards reach 160W world go crazy.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 02, 2016, 10:46:41 am

You have a 980Ti and bought RX 480's ?

want to try multi gpu with these cards as if it fails
i wont make too big of a loss
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 02, 2016, 10:47:32 am
I'm in a bit of a muddle here. I've set my eyes on the 480 4GB (Because budget is super tight and it's for 1080p) but I've got serious doubts how my el cheapo motherboard is going to hold up to the out-of-spec power draws. Should I wait for AIB cards or just risk it?

Your current card is actually worse when it comes to power draw. You're better off going for a RX 480.

(http://www.thg.ru/graphic/obzor_nvidia_geforce_gtx_960_part_2/images/nvidia_geforce_gtx_960_128.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: cat eye on July 02, 2016, 12:54:13 pm
everyone hate 970 :D but they forgetabout beefy 390 also in  that hole ,and ya i dont think u will not  get any big advantage over 970 and 390 ,490 will defenetly do the damage but i think 490 vega prouduct  :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on July 02, 2016, 01:29:12 pm
It's supposed to be slightly faster than a 980, but not as powerful as a 980Ti, so around a non-X Fury.

Price is likely to be $250 for the 3GB and 300 for the 6GB, which seems a little bit high considering what the RX 480 offers.

Of course, it's not going to be as fast as a Zotac 970.

It would highly depend on how established it's lead on the 980 is. If it beats it in every game and is at least 1.3 times better than the 480 (the 250 quid version), I think it might be a good buy.

Gotta wait and see for the benchmarks.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: cat eye on July 02, 2016, 02:44:05 pm
i dont know this thing is a issue but be carefull :)https://www.techpowerup.com/223833/official-statement-from-amd-on-the-pci-express-overcurrent-issue
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 02, 2016, 03:32:49 pm
It would highly depend on how established it's lead on the 980 is. If it beats it in every game and is at least 1.3 times better than the 480 (the 250 quid version), I think it might be a good buy.

Gotta wait and see for the benchmarks.
That's the thing. 30% better than a RX 480 would put it dangerously close to a GTX 1070. No one would buy a GTX 1070 after that. If they were to keep the GTX 1070 relevant, then a card that costs 25% less should be around 25% slower than a GTX 1070. That would put the GTX 1060 less than 10% faster than a RX 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on July 02, 2016, 03:36:17 pm
That's the thing. 30% better than a RX 480 would put it dangerously close to a GTX 1070. No one would buy a GTX 1070 after that. If they were to keep the GTX 1070 relevant, then a card that costs 25% less should be around 25% slower than a GTX 1070. That would put the GTX 1060 less that 10% faster than a RX 480.

Hmm that's a good point. I wouldn't pay 50$ more for 10% more performance for sure.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Arceus on July 02, 2016, 03:38:48 pm
i dont know this thing is a issue but be carefull :)https://www.techpowerup.com/223833/official-statement-from-amd-on-the-pci-express-overcurrent-issue

"As you know, we continuously tune our GPUs in order to maximize their performance within their given power envelopes and the speed of the memory interface, which in this case is an unprecedented 8 Gbps for GDDR5. Recently, we identified select scenarios where the tuning of some RX 480 boards was not optimal. Fortunately, we can adjust the GPU's tuning via software in order to resolve this issue. We are already testing a driver that implements a fix, and we will provide an update to the community on our progress on Tuesday (July 5, 2016)."
 
 Hopefully they won't underclock the card to resolve this issue.
 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 02, 2016, 03:40:46 pm
Hopefully they won't underclock the card to resolve this issue.
Apparently it's as simple as setting your default vcore a bit lower.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 02, 2016, 03:45:09 pm
"As you know, we continuously tune our GPUs in order to maximize their performance within their given power envelopes and the speed of the memory interface, which in this case is an unprecedented 8 Gbps for GDDR5. Recently, we identified select scenarios where the tuning of some RX 480 boards was not optimal. Fortunately, we can adjust the GPU's tuning via software in order to resolve this issue. We are already testing a driver that implements a fix, and we will provide an update to the community on our progress on Tuesday (July 5, 2016)."
 
 Hopefully they won't underclock the card to resolve this issue.
 

They already do that even now. 1266MHz boost is not stable. It fluctuates. They'll probably make the fluctuations stronger or more rapid.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on July 02, 2016, 07:34:06 pm
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410

so some ones PCIE has died with RX480 and there are others claiming the same thing happen. ???

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: CheapNoob on July 02, 2016, 09:07:59 pm
Weird how Nanotek have the same card for the same price and warranty as well ::)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 03, 2016, 06:38:31 am
https://imgur.com/a/kv0Nf

I'm sold.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 03, 2016, 09:41:16 am
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410 (https://community.amd.com/thread/202410)

so some ones PCIE has died with RX480 and there are others claiming the same thing happen. ???



Now their were few smart ass talking of 960, but did not here anyone saying this.


If your board goes will the vendor provide warranty for the M/B as well ?  May be AMD will pay you guys  :P :no: (N)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on July 03, 2016, 12:52:13 pm
Weird how Nanotek have the same card for the same price and warranty as well ::)

Do you want Nanotek to sell it for a higher price with less warranty? I'm no business man, but I think that would be a bad business
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 03, 2016, 01:05:42 pm
Weird how Nanotek have the same card for the same price and warranty as well ::)

What is this nanotek place o_0
Time to pay a visit I think.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: CheapNoob on July 03, 2016, 01:38:27 pm
Do you want Nanotek to sell it for a higher price with less warranty? I'm no business man, but I think that would be a bad business
I was just subtly implying how much most of their stock, prices and warranties are similar to RL. Makes you wonder doesn't it....? ::)

What is this nanotek place o_0
Time to pay a visit I think.
Google em. They're in Dehiwela
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 03, 2016, 02:40:25 pm
I was just subtly implying how much most of their stock, prices and warranties are similar to RL. Makes you wonder doesn't it....? ::)
Google em. They're in Dehiwela

FYI redline is the authorised distributor for Sapphire cards and palit cards. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure they are the suppliers.
There is something called a "dealer price" it's usually a little less than the retail price. They buy it and sell in their own shops.

Same thing goes for egs. They are distributors for ZOTAC GPU's.

Dealers buy from them and sell for retail price.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 03, 2016, 02:51:10 pm
Makes you wonder doesn't it....? ::)


Stirring up the pot again?  ;D

The thing is some people are biased towards a specific party they'll neglect it in an instance, and another set of people who are completely against this specified party so again they'll neglect it without a thought.
That's the brilliance of it.

Hmm..... I wish Silva was here  ::)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on July 03, 2016, 05:14:14 pm


Hmm..... I wish Silva was here  ::)

Let him hibernate, don't summon him xD
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Epoch on July 04, 2016, 11:39:18 am
What is this nanotek place o_0
Time to pay a visit I think.

It's like a backup R/L LoL!  I called RL to get an SSD - it wasn't in stock so called Nano and voila! they had em!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 04, 2016, 01:19:26 pm
It's like a backup R/L LoL!  I called RL to get an SSD - it wasn't in stock so called Nano and voila! they had em!
Well, you got the item didn't you? Happy customer ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 04, 2016, 03:29:56 pm
Perhaps it's not ethical to say this. What prevents me from upgrading is the lack of cracked games. Last AAA game I was able to play was Quantum Break. It eventually boils down to games which you can test these beasts on. I don't think many of us are in a position to spend thousands for games after burning out 50k for a graphic card. : / 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 04, 2016, 03:57:36 pm
Perhaps it's not ethical to say this. What prevents me from upgrading is the lack of cracked games. Last AAA game I was able to play was Quantum Break. It eventually boils down to games which you can test these beasts on. I don't think many of us are in a position to spend thousands for games after burning out 50k for a graphic card. : / 
You're so right. I just download 2-3 year old games when they go on sale and they run absolutely superbly on my old card. I do miss out on multiplayer but life doesn't give me freedom to play them freely as I used to anyways.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 04, 2016, 04:02:18 pm
Perhaps it's not ethical to say this. What prevents me from upgrading is the lack of cracked games. Last AAA game I was able to play was Quantum Break. It eventually boils down to games which you can test these beasts on. I don't think many of us are in a position to spend thousands for games after burning out 50k for a graphic card. : /
see it more of an inevstment ,that grants u loads of fun
it also matters on how long will u keep the card
if u keep it longr the games will eventually get cheaper and when that happens u will have a gpu that can handle it
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 04, 2016, 04:06:50 pm
see it more of an inevstment ,that grants u loads of fun
it also matters on how long will u keep the card
if u keep it longr the games will eventually get cheaper and when that happens u will have a gpu that can handle it
But you might able to buy a faster and/or cheaper card when you buy it when the need materializes.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: NilFBosh on July 04, 2016, 04:12:43 pm
Well, you got the item didn't you? Happy customer ;D
Well played ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 04, 2016, 04:15:10 pm
Perhaps it's not ethical to say this. What prevents me from upgrading is the lack of cracked games. Last AAA game I was able to play was Quantum Break. It eventually boils down to games which you can test these beasts on. I don't think many of us are in a position to spend thousands for games after burning out 50k for a graphic card. : /

I was wondering the same thing.
But then again, somehow this kind of forces me to earn that extra bit of money to purchase the original game other than waiting with my mouth open to play it for free.
I guess denuvo was maybe a good thing in a wierd way. Made my life a bit more serious somehow  :\
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: cat eye on July 05, 2016, 07:51:24 am
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-4gb-cards-8gb-unlockable-bios-update/ grab it lads while u can 8gb for less ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 05, 2016, 11:52:02 am
GTX 970: 3.5/4 GB
RX 480: 8/4 GB

I see what you did there AMD.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ALCH3MIST on July 05, 2016, 01:27:04 pm
Though it's interesting that most games can be run at 1080p perfectly fine [IMO] on ye two-generations-old midrange card: 1080p has long since ceased becoming the edge and become the standard instead...
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: FL4SH on July 05, 2016, 03:25:36 pm
I guess denuvo was maybe a good thing in a wierd way. Made my life a bit more serious somehow  :\

actually It has. I was more like a pirated game player. but this community somehow made me to become a legit owner and now I  own several titles( less than 10 ;D) but still I'm happy with it. Planning to continue to be that way. buying legit games actually better. pirated games come with shitload of bugs and errors which behave differently on different pc's and eventually become a frustrated one. but with legit games we get the technical support, continuous updates ...etc. so.. imho it's pretty much worth it.

anyway.. sorry for going off topic!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: jude725 on July 05, 2016, 06:29:42 pm
actually It has. I was more like a pirated game player. but this community somehow made me to become a legit owner and now I  own several titles( less than 10 ;D) but still I'm happy with it. Planning to continue to be that way. buying legit games actually better. pirated games come with shitload of bugs and errors which behave differently on different pc's and eventually become a frustrated one. but with legit games we get the technical support, continuous updates ...etc. so.. imho it's pretty much worth it.

anyway.. sorry for going off topic!
In my way, I disagree. Spending every penny squeezed in and buying hardware, which let you play several games, and all the other software video editing everything. and which u can use for years.
but games, once you have finished single player, and you dont have time or talent to play multiplayer, thousands you have spent on it jus, done! no one would re-play a finished game do they? (unless youre extremely passionate of the game, like CoD mw. mw2 mw3  ;) )
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 05, 2016, 06:46:37 pm
I admit gaming in general has given me a purpose to earn money. All my gaming gear was bought from my own money. However It's difficult to spend regularly for games. I bought a PS4 to play Sony exclusive games which are not released regularly. But having to spend games on regular basis suck big time. If I have money, I would def be buying good games as that would support the developers also.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 05, 2016, 07:27:55 pm
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-power-measurements,4622-2.html

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 05, 2016, 07:57:20 pm
Get them while they are hot. 8GB is always better. If anyone plays Star Citizen, they know how much Vram it consumes. It hits almost 4GB mark at 1080p. So always better to have extra 4GB, because future games will need that Vram.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 05, 2016, 08:06:36 pm
but games, once you have finished single player, and you dont have time or talent to play multiplayer, thousands you have spent on it jus, done! no one would re-play a finished game do they? (unless youre extremely passionate of the game, like CoD mw. mw2 mw3  ;) )

I admit gaming in general has given me a purpose to earn money. All my gaming gear was bought from my own money. However It's difficult to spend regularly for games. I bought a PS4 to play Sony exclusive games which are not released regularly. But having to spend games on regular basis suck big time. If I have money, I would def be buying good games as that would support the developers also.

Actually the thing is nowdays I only play only the games that I'm passionate or interested about.
Specially speaking the likes of Dark Souls & Witcher. So I enjoy almost all the time I get back to those games and I don't enjoy much playing the other everyday triple A games. 
This is speaking about the single player campaigns.
Well other than that you can't play multiplayer in cracked games and there are so many upcoming games with interesting multiplayer content.

Other than that denuvo hasn't actually stopped me from playing the games. I always seem to find someway to play them. If you search deep enough in the web, you can find a way. I even once shared a method here.
But I don't seem to enjoy playing every upcoming game now. Only the ones I'm very much awaiting to play. So I guess no harm in -aying for it if it's filled with rich content.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 05, 2016, 09:31:14 pm
lol, been sick for a week, seems like a lot of stuff happened, didn't read them all. will do later.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: jude725 on July 06, 2016, 07:10:45 pm
I admit gaming in general has given me a purpose to earn money. All my gaming gear was bought from my own money. However It's difficult to spend regularly for games. I bought a PS4 to play Sony exclusive games which are not released regularly. But having to spend games on regular basis suck big time. If I have money, I would def be buying good games as that would support the developers also.
well said bro  (Y)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: FL4SH on July 06, 2016, 09:46:00 pm
In my way, I disagree. Spending every penny squeezed in and buying hardware, which let you play several games, and all the other software video editing everything. and which u can use for years.
but games, once you have finished single player, and you dont have time or talent to play multiplayer, thousands you have spent on it jus, done! no one would re-play a finished game do they? (unless youre extremely passionate of the game, like CoD mw. mw2 mw3  ;) )

I didn't mention I would buy EVERY game which get released. I have a certain taste and I wouldn't hesitate to invest on it. agree to your point that after completing a game it would seem a waste. Don't you think we have spent much on things which we could never get it back. At least a game, you could always go back and play( like BF4 for me and maybe) but NOT if the title is every worth going back. GTA V for an example with its' multiplayer content. Rockstar totally deserved my moneey! :D

anyway. done replying to this. :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Mesh_FTW on July 06, 2016, 10:01:58 pm
they r workin on rx 470 and 460 too. according to them 460 2gb version will be launched for little as $99 so wht i wanna know is will it be capable of outperforming current budget gpus like gtx 750 ti/ r7 370?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: DSCHANDRASENA on July 07, 2016, 08:56:49 pm
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-launch,32214.html#xtor=RSS-100
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on July 07, 2016, 09:28:48 pm
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-launch,32214.html#xtor=RSS-100
Shit just got real ,didn't it?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 07, 2016, 09:45:07 pm
Shit just got real ,didn't it?
Note that the $250 MSRP is for a 3GB card, while the founders edition is an 6GB card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Ghostrider on July 07, 2016, 09:53:29 pm
The AIB cards will start selling July 19th for 249 USD whereas the Nvidia reference founders edition cards will be sold for 299 USD, these prices are all for the 6 GB versions.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060.html

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 07, 2016, 10:11:21 pm
We'll see if 1060 actually matches or outperforms 980. 3Dmark doesn't mean $h!t.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 07, 2016, 10:17:56 pm
And the this works.
https://www.techpowerup.com/223913/amd-retail-radeon-rx-480-4gb-to-8gb-memory-unlock-mod-works-we-benchmarked
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Kando on July 07, 2016, 10:48:33 pm
Note that the $250 MSRP is for a 3GB card, while the founders edition is an 8GB card.

Wait I thought it came in 3GB and 6GB Variants?

If the founders card is 8/6GB, and costs 299, Can we expect the non-founders 8/6GB to cost less? But that would come close to the 3GB variant then :S
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vilan0502 on July 07, 2016, 10:51:36 pm
Guys what about the heating and PCI burning issue with RX480.? Is that issue really exist.?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 07, 2016, 11:05:22 pm
Guys what about the heating and PCI burning issue with RX480.? Is that issue really exist.?

Fixed via a driver update. If you don't have a ancient motherboard nothing to worry about anyway.  (Y)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 07, 2016, 11:10:22 pm
The AIB cards will start selling July 19th for 249 USD whereas the Nvidia reference founders edition cards will be sold for 299 USD, these prices are all for the 6 GB versions.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060.html

Basically it's 25% more expensive than the RX 480 and only 8-10% more powerful
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 08, 2016, 12:17:18 am
Wait I thought it came in 3GB and 6GB Variants?

If the founders card is 8/6GB, and costs 299, Can we expect the non-founders 8/6GB to cost less? But that would come close to the 3GB variant then :S
Similar to the other 10-series cards, they aren't releasing a reference card at MSRP, like AMD did with the RX 480. Instead, they release a more expensive reference card and simply announce a lower price point as MSRP. There's no guarantee that there will be any cards that will be available at $250, just like there are not GTX 1080s and 1070s available at "MSRP".

AIB 6GB cards will cost around $280, which translates to around 60k.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 08, 2016, 09:10:07 am
Similar to the other 10-series cards, they aren't releasing a reference card at MSRP, like AMD did with the RX 480. Instead, they release a more expensive reference card and simply announce a lower price point as MSRP. There's no guarantee that there will be any cards that will be available at $250, just like there are not GTX 1080s and 1070s available at "MSRP".

AIB 6GB cards will cost around $280, which translates to around 60k.

**60 series used to be the sweet spot for many gamers. I had 560TI back then and it was awesome for that price range. How the times have changed :( If 1060 gonna cost around 60k you might as well  go for 1070. Even if it takes time to save money for it I think that's the smart thing to do.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 08, 2016, 09:49:02 am
seriously?  :D you said first the sites are dodgy, now rages? 470 and 460 not announced yet?!! :D :D
please .they are out on 29th and you are saying not even announced?!!

this is dread, truly dread for rt, may god help.
I hear those RX 470s and RX 460s launched on the 29th are selling like hot cakes ::)

The RX 470 is expected to be launched by next week and the RX 460 is expected in late July.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: jude725 on July 08, 2016, 09:23:30 pm
60k for 1060?  ??? i thought its gonna hit the 40k mark.. 1070 is jus around the corner knw whos gonna buy a 1060 for 60k?  >:(
btw if its 280$, probably it should be arnd 50k google says 40k from usd->lkr
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 08, 2016, 09:35:44 pm
60k for 1060?  ??? i thought its gonna hit the 40k mark.. 1070 is jus around the corner knw whos gonna buy a 1060 for 60k?  >:(
btw if its 280$, probably it should be arnd 50k google says 40k from usd->lkr
Not this again. If a $200 card sells for around 40k, then a $300 card is going to sell around 60k. Doesn't anyone use logic anymore? Sri Lanka =/= US
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: chandare on July 08, 2016, 10:11:42 pm
Looking at the prices of RX480 and GTX 1060, best graphics card deal of recent years seems to be the R9 390 at 56k. 6k more for the same performance about a year and a half early is an even exchange imho.
Well, atleast until the 4gb(8gb) rx480 pops up. :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 08, 2016, 10:22:09 pm
Looking at the prices of RX480 and GTX 1060, best graphics card deal of recent years seems to be the R9 390 at 56k. 6k more for the same performance about a year and a half early is an even exchange imho.
Well, atleast until the 4gb(8gb) rx480 pops up. :)
If the USD remained at 132 and the duty and taxes were the same as early 2015,

The RX 480 4GB would be 37k
The RX 480 8GB would be 42k
The GTX 1060 would be 50k
The GTX 1070 would be 70k
The GTX 1080 would be 110k

Different times.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 08, 2016, 10:36:15 pm
If the USD remained at 132 and the duty and taxes were the same as early 2015,

The RX 480 4GB would be 37k
The RX 480 8GB would be 42k
The GTX 1060 would be 50k
The GTX 1070 would be 70k
The GTX 1080 would be 110k

Different times.

'em old days.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Ghostrider on July 09, 2016, 06:32:48 pm
Zero, when will you bring down Sapphire nitro RX 480 8GB ? How much will it cost ?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vilan0502 on July 09, 2016, 08:50:20 pm
Zero, when will you bring down Sapphire nitro RX 480 8GB ? How much will it cost ?
Same question and also what about the 4GB version of NITRO.?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: indi$torm on July 10, 2016, 08:32:56 am
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/7.html
Consider your monitor and choose the GPU, which is value for money


Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 10, 2016, 10:18:35 am
This is the more complete picture ;)
 
(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 10, 2016, 06:35:56 pm
Same question and also what about the 4GB version of NITRO.?
According to a recent statement from Sapphire, there will only be 8GB variants of the Nitro edition. They might make 4GB models if there's demand though.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 11, 2016, 07:35:53 pm
I am sorry if I am going off topic. But can anyone tell me if I sell my 280x dual and buy a rx 480 card will I see a significant improvement?

Also, how much should I price my 280x dualx card if I am selling it here in GLK. It has warranty remaining till April, 2017. I have the bill with me as well. No bitcoining done, used only for gaming.

I am asking this only cause I am contemplating about selling the 280x and buying a 4GB version of RX480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 11, 2016, 07:38:28 pm
Well, according the above chart, can I take it as a 30% improvement? Is that worth spending the extra bucks.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 11, 2016, 07:40:42 pm
Well, according the above chart, can I take it as a 30% improvement? Is that worth spending the extra bucks.
It's not 30%.
It's (100-70)*100/70=42.85%.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 11, 2016, 09:11:39 pm
I heard the vat tax increments have been cancelled or on hold by the court.
so shouldn't the prices go down?
At least when you're bringing the new stock?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on July 11, 2016, 09:31:18 pm
I am sorry if I am going off topic. But can anyone tell me if I sell my 280x dual and buy a rx 480 card will I see a significant improvement?

Also, how much should I price my 280x dualx card if I am selling it here in GLK. It has warranty remaining till April, 2017. I have the bill with me as well. No bitcoining done, used only for gaming.

I am asking this only cause I am contemplating about selling the 280x and buying a 4GB version of RX480.
I would say somewhere close to 20k

How did I arrive at that figure you ask?

If the 280x performs around 70% of the 480, and the 480 being priced at 43k ,then 70% of that would be roughly 30k
And used cards usually go for about 2/3 the price of their brand new counterparts......which brings us to 20k

Viola (Y)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 11, 2016, 09:43:49 pm
I don't know how accurate this benchmark is. But it's the only available proof for GTX1060's performance. And it's performing almost same as RX 480.

RX 480
(https://s32.postimg.org/e0d18jrs3/111.jpg)

GTX 1060
(https://s32.postimg.org/bkb7up9pf/Ge_Force_GTX_1060_AOTS_Extreme_1080p.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 11, 2016, 10:07:43 pm
I heard the vat tax increments have been cancelled or on hold by the court.
so shouldn't the prices go down?
At least when you're bringing the new stock?
Increments have been cancelled, not VAT itself, so it goes back to being 12% from 15%
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 11, 2016, 10:28:11 pm
It's not 30%.
It's (100-70)*100/70=42.85%.

ah sorry. relative to the 280x it's 42.85% increase. you're right
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 12, 2016, 04:55:29 am
I don't know how accurate this benchmark is. But it's the only available proof for GTX1060's performance. And it's performing almost same as RX 480.

If the 1060 is performing the same as RX 480 in Ashes, then it's gonna be much faster in other titles than the 480. Although I wouldn't expect much as the amount of CUDA cores it has is pathetic.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 12, 2016, 08:17:47 am
ah sorry. relative to the 280x it's 42.85% increase. you're right
I would say somewhere close to 20k

How did I arrive at that figure you ask?

If the 280x performs around 70% of the 480, and the 480 being priced at 43k ,then 70% of that would be roughly 30k
And used cards usually go for about 2/3 the price of their brand new counterparts......which brings us to 20k

Viola (Y)

Thanks for responding to the message. : )
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 12, 2016, 01:46:00 pm
If the 1060 is performing the same as RX 480 in Ashes, then it's gonna be much faster in other titles than the 480. Although I wouldn't expect much as the amount of CUDA cores it has is pathetic.

Not on DX12 though.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 14, 2016, 10:34:04 am
XFX custom RX 480 spotted! Damn.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/YyRS2PSVTzD9hP60HYyoHSRPPRrv9QhJTLcA03Bb9Oo.jpg?w=1024&s=8a0de69c531c5386e23e0bc50b1bf9e4)


Not on DX12 though.
And Vulkan. Those Doom benchmarks though.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on July 14, 2016, 10:36:03 am
XFX custom RX 480 spotted! Damn.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/YyRS2PSVTzD9hP60HYyoHSRPPRrv9QhJTLcA03Bb9Oo.jpg?w=1024&s=8a0de69c531c5386e23e0bc50b1bf9e4)

wow that look nice. :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 14, 2016, 03:07:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/CAcEAiK.jpg)

A high end 2013 card getting wrecked by mid range 2012 card. That's AMD for you.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 07:13:10 pm
Nvidea 1060 might beat Amd 480 on price to performance battle, I feel. EGS has priced their 1060 4k more than 480. If press releases and leaked benchmarks are to be believed, that's more than 15% performance for just 10 dollars extra. Redline has priced their Palit Jetstream 1060 card at 58k though.

That's strange, because AMD has always had the edge over price to performance battle.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 07:22:21 pm
Also rx 480 is $ 239 and nvidea 1060 is $249, so the difference should be just 10 dollars. However the cheapest 1060 variant we are getting costs Rs 4000 more even though there is only a $10 of difference.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 14, 2016, 07:59:58 pm
I hear those RX 470s and RX 460s launched on the 29th are selling like hot cakes ::)

The RX 470 is expected to be launched by next week and the RX 460 is expected in late July.
Yes i feel stupid.


btw i missed a lot of the discussion lately, strange fever these days be alert fellas.

so looks like my waiting spree continues for my 760 successor. not sure about 1060, if a well performing 6gb variant priced well would do it for me, atleast could make use of skyrim remastered  ;D.

really upgrading because not going to sell my 760. it's going to my bro's pc. so not expecting much from 1060 to impress me, price price price. it right. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 14, 2016, 08:06:28 pm
Nvidea 1060 might beat Amd 480 on price to performance battle, I feel. EGS has priced their 1060 4k more than 480. If press releases and leaked benchmarks are to be believed, that's more than 15% performance for just 10 dollars extra. Redline has priced their Palit Jetstream 1060 card at 58k though.

That's strange, because AMD has always had the edge over price to performance battle.
AMD still has. Wait for the reviews then you will see. Also make sure to check out DX12 and vulkan benchmarks. Coz that's where the future is.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 08:28:39 pm
AMD still has. Wait for the reviews then you will see. Also make sure to check out DX12 and vulkan benchmarks. Coz that's where the future is.

Yeah, in Doom 4 which supports Vulcan, RX 480 has shown some insane performance levels. But Nvidea is pitching 1060 to be 15% better than the nearest competition which is RX  480. Leaked benchmarks have proven this both on DX 12 and DX 11 games. I am not a Nvidea fan boy btw. I have an ATI card and always supported ATI when it comes to pricing.

Also I am guessing Sapphire custom cards of RX 480 might be expensive than reference cards.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 14, 2016, 09:17:08 pm
But Nvidea is pitching 1060 to be 15% better than the nearest competition which is RX  480. Leaked benchmarks have proven this both on DX 12 and DX 11 games.
If you are referring to this leaked image which is supposedly from the GTX 1060 reviewers guide, then Nvidia is trying really hard to make this card look good.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/datEa4vxa6kwI_vfvpCbm1qz-8CDq59eeog4b5KIQc0.jpg?s=947977e266283cccb55d14cde8620e0f)

First of all, the GTX 960 is not nearly as fast as shown in this. I know because I've been using one for the last couple of months. And the RX 480 is a lot faster than shown here. Check any RX 480 review.

Example from TPU

(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/rottr_1920_1080.png)
(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/gtav_1920_1080.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 09:56:38 pm
Well yeah, 60 plus fps there. Let's hope so, I want Rx 480 to do well myself. But Nvidea and many other sites are promoting 1060 as a 480 killer.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 14, 2016, 10:00:49 pm
Well yeah, 60 plus fps there. Let's hope so, I want Rx 480 to do well myself. But Nvidea and many other sites are promoting 1060 as a 480 killer.
The RX 480 is a mid range card, so putting out a faster card is not really difficult. But how much faster for 25% more $$$ is yet to be seen.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 14, 2016, 10:08:38 pm
nvidias resorted to bullshit again
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 10:16:02 pm
The RX 480 is a mid range card, so putting out a faster card is not really difficult. But how much faster for 25% more $$$ is yet to be seen.

It's not 25% more this time right? 1060 6gb version is only $10 more than a 8gb  Rx 480. They are also releasing a 3GB 1060 which would be lot cheaper.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 14, 2016, 10:20:07 pm
Also this won't be a problem for SL but it's gonna be another paper launch. look what happened to 1080 and 1070. 10% gain for 25% extra cost not really worth it IMO. And that founders card bullshit needs to be stopped. What a joke that is.  >:(

"AMD like a fine wine. It's get better with age"

It's not 25% more this time right? 1060 6gb version is only $10 more than a 8gb  Rx 480. They are also releasing a 3GB 1060 which would be lot cheaper.
It is I think and don't even think about getting a 3GB nowadays.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 14, 2016, 10:25:41 pm
Also this won't be a problem for SL but it's gonna be another paper launch. look what happened to 1080 and 1070. 10% gain for 25% extra cost not really worth it IMO. And that founders card bullshit needs to be stopped. What a joke that is.  >:(

"AMD like a fine wine. It's get better with age"
It is I think and don't even think about getting a 3GB nowadays.

No I am saying 6GB version is only 10 dollars more than the Rx 480 8gb version and claims to offer 15% more of performance. That's not 25% more $$$, that's just 10 dollars more for 15% of extra performance. At least that's what they claim. I know 960 and 760 both performed below par when compared to equivalent ati cards, but nvidea seems to have taken a more aggressive approach with 1060
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 14, 2016, 11:27:51 pm
No I am saying 6GB version is only 10 dollars more than the Rx 480 8gb version and claims to offer 15% more of performance. That's not 25% more $$$, that's just 10 dollars more for 15% of extra performance. At least that's what they claim. I know 960 and 760 both performed below par when compared to equivalent ati cards, but nvidea seems to have taken a more aggressive approach with 1060
You need to be comparing to the 4GB card, which is $200. At 1080p, there's no difference with the extra VRAM.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 15, 2016, 12:29:10 pm
Zero - Do you have an eta on sapphire nitro 480x cards, will they release the 4GB variant as well?

Also will prices of custom cards be significantly higher when compared to reference cards? Online sites complain about the power draw in reference cards. I am bit skeptical even though they claim to have fixed it with a driver update.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 15, 2016, 02:41:26 pm
Online sites complain about power draw on older boards as well and I have a prehistoric H61 motherboard.
This was fixed in a recent driver update and shouldn't be brought back up again. Besides, the power draw issue was only with reference cards and shouldn't be a problem with AIB cards.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 15, 2016, 02:56:59 pm
This was fixed in a recent driver update and shouldn't be brought back up again. Besides, the power draw issue was only with reference cards and shouldn't be a problem with AIB cards.

Yeah, but currently, we only have reference cards in the market.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 15, 2016, 10:39:47 pm
Yeah, but currently, we only have reference cards in the market.

So what's wrong? It's already fixed and it wasn't that big of a issue to begin with.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 15, 2016, 11:16:14 pm
So what's wrong? It's already fixed and it wasn't that big of a issue to begin with.
So what's wrong? It's already fixed and it wasn't that big of a issue to begin with.

Yeah, but most reviewers seem to suggest cooling system isn't ideal in reference cards, so waiting for aftermarket coolers would be the best solution.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 16, 2016, 12:41:25 am
Yeah, but most reviewers seem to suggest cooling system isn't ideal in reference cards, so waiting for aftermarket coolers would be the best solution.
That's the case for pretty much any reference card, including the Fools Founders Edition.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 16, 2016, 12:42:07 am
That's the case for pretty much any reference card, including the Fools Founders Edition.
Nvidia fanboys incoming ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on July 16, 2016, 07:32:52 am
Nvidia fanboys incoming ;D
There is absolutely no logical explanation for the nvidia fanboys this time around  :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 16, 2016, 07:58:38 pm
That's the case for pretty much any reference card, including the Fools Founders Edition.

So, should wait for non reference custom cards then. Release dates aren't even announced yet.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 16, 2016, 09:13:25 pm
There is absolutely no logical explanation for the nvidia fanboys this time around  :P
there is no logical explanation for any nvidia fanboy
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 18, 2016, 05:04:31 pm
The frustration of the people who are commenting on the following thread. It's like they are going to rebel instead of waiting for Radeon Rebellion!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4tbc14/still_no_release_date_for_sapphire_rx_480_nitro/
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 18, 2016, 09:16:04 pm
The frustration of the people who are commenting on the following thread. It's like they are going to rebel instead of waiting for Radeon Rebellion!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4tbc14/still_no_release_date_for_sapphire_rx_480_nitro/

Don't worry it will be available very soon.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: sameera2013 on July 18, 2016, 09:56:30 pm
Will the RX 470 be better than a GTX 970? I know gaming benchmarks are not yet out. Some opinions would be nice.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vilan0502 on July 18, 2016, 10:06:51 pm
Will the RX 470 be better than a GTX 970? I know gaming benchmarks are not yet out. Some opinions would be nice.
If you are interested in RX470, I can offer you Brand New one for 29k. PM me for more details if interested.  (Y)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on July 18, 2016, 10:08:59 pm
If you are interested in RX470, I can offer you Brand New one for 29k. PM me for more details if interested.  (Y)

wow u already have an RX470?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: sameera2013 on July 18, 2016, 10:16:40 pm
If you are interested in RX470, I can offer you Brand New one for 29k. PM me for more details if interested.  (Y)
I sure would like to know the performance. I was thinking of buying a GTX 970 from a guy here. But I wanted to know how the 470 perform since that may also be a good option.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 18, 2016, 10:58:58 pm
Will the RX 470 be better than a GTX 970? I know gaming benchmarks are not yet out. Some opinions would be nice.
Since the RX 470 has ~11% less cores than a RX 480, it's likely to be ~11% slower than a RX 480, meaning that an aftermarket OC card like the Nitro should match a stock RX 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vilan0502 on July 19, 2016, 12:11:03 am
wow u already have an RX470?
Not yet bro. I mean after the arrival...  ;)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 19, 2016, 11:14:20 am
Will the RX 470 be better than a GTX 970? I know gaming benchmarks are not yet out. Some opinions would be nice.

DX 11 - no
DX 12 - on par most probably
Vulkan - Yes
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 19, 2016, 11:17:12 am
Zero- This came as a surprise almost. Prices of Sapphire rx 480 nitro cards have been added to the redline price list. 4GB version is priced at 43k and 8gb version is priced at 52k.

Awesome pricing. Is it legit? Almost the same price as reference cards. I mean even Sapphire hasn't announced the prices yet if I m not mistaken.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 19, 2016, 11:48:25 am
Zero- This came as a surprise almost. Prices of Sapphire rx 480 nitro cards have been added to the redline price list. 4GB version is priced at 43k and 8gb version is priced at 52k.

Awesome pricing. Is it legit? Almost the same price as reference cards. I mean even Sapphire hasn't announced the prices yet if I m not mistaken.

They have announced prices in UK I believe

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-480
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 19, 2016, 07:09:47 pm
DX 11 - no
DX 12 - on par most probably
Vulkan - Yes

Reviews are out and guess what? I guessed it right. Except 480 is actually way better in DX12.
Some reviews that I found.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73040-nvidia-gtx-1060-6gb-review-15.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-3.html
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 19, 2016, 07:57:59 pm
So facts r slowly coming out.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 19, 2016, 09:48:01 pm
So facts r slowly coming out.

What facts again? The fact that 1060 is only perform 10% more for 25% more cost or where 480 outperform 1060 on dx12 and vulkan where the future is?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 19, 2016, 10:25:35 pm
Zero- This came as a surprise almost. Prices of Sapphire rx 480 nitro cards have been added to the redline price list. 4GB version is priced at 43k and 8gb version is priced at 52k.

Awesome pricing. Is it legit? Almost the same price as reference cards. I mean even Sapphire hasn't announced the prices yet if I m not mistaken.
Prices are final. The prices of the RX 470 and RX 460 will also be finalized soon :)


So facts r slowly coming out.
The Zotac GTX 970 AMP Extreme is faster than a GTX 1060, so no one has a reason to buy a GTX 1060?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 20, 2016, 12:38:45 am
So facts r slowly coming out.
dont u already have a thread for ur nvidia cards?
dont pollute this amd thread
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 20, 2016, 03:48:59 am
The 1060 is about 3% faster than a RX 480 and still costs $50 more? And that's not even considering the DX12/Vulkan performance. Sounds like a big fail to me. Not trying to be a fanboy or anything but seriously AMD has nothing to worry about here lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 20, 2016, 04:46:36 am
The 1060 is about 3% faster than a RX 480 and still costs $50 more? And that's not even considering the DX12/Vulkan performance. Sounds like a big fail to me. Not trying to be a fanboy or anything but seriously AMD has nothing to worry about here lol.
AMD just need to figure out how to get day one availability of AIB partner cards. They must havw lost many sales because of this, because everyone is advising people to wait for the AIB partner cards with custom coolers and PCB designs. There definitely will be people who originally wanted to buy the RX480, turning to Nvidia because of the delay.

There are GTX 1060 cards announced at $249 in the US market. Not sure what the real price will be though. Let's see how the availability of the cards will be like.
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1060

BTW, does anyone have a list of Vulkan based games coming out in the next couple of years? Because, if the list is small, NVidia can always come back strong when it really matters.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 20, 2016, 08:37:13 am
AMD just need to figure out how to get day one availability of AIB partner cards. They must havw lost many sales because of this, because everyone is advising people to wait for the AIB partner cards with custom coolers and PCB designs. There definitely will be people who originally wanted to buy the RX480, turning to Nvidia because of the delay.

There are GTX 1060 cards announced at $249 in the US market. Not sure what the real price will be though. Let's see how the availability of the cards will be like.
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1060

BTW, does anyone have a list of Vulkan based games coming out in the next couple of years? Because, if the list is small, NVidia can always come back strong when it really matters.

Nvidia needs async compute in hardware level.  If they do that their power efficiency going out of the window. So yeah I don't see that happening in the immediate future.

About availability you can't still find a 1080 or 1070 for the right price coz of the supply issues and I see that happening to the 1060 as well.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 20, 2016, 08:44:35 am
Nvidia needs async computer in hardware level.  If they do that thier power efficiency going out of the window. So yeah I dont see that happening in the immediate future.

About availability you can't still find a 1080 or 1070 for the right price coz of the supply issues and I see that happening to the 1060 as well.
Of course it is not happening with Pascal. That's why I gave them a couple of years' window.

Why do you think the 1060 will have supply issues? I'm sure it is way easier to manufacture a chip with such low ROPs and SPs. But let's see.

The RX480 is also not easy to find anymore. Probably 14nm/16nm yields are still very bad.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 20, 2016, 11:25:12 am
Of course it is not happening with Pascal. That's why I gave them a couple of years' window.

Why do you think the 1060 will have supply issues? I'm sure it is way easier to manufacture a chip with such low ROPs and SPs. But let's see.

The RX480 is also not easy to find anymore. Probably 14nm/16nm yields are still very bad.

I'm thinking that coz they have had few paper launches recently and they had to hurry the 1060 to counter the 480. Therefore I believe they will have supply issues. Just a guess anyway.
And those couple of years lots of thing can happen coz AMD not going to sit around.

and check this out.
www.hardocp.com/article/2016/07/19/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1060_founders_edition_review/4#.V48S3_l97IV

"The performance gap widens at 1080p. Here the AMD Radeon RX 480 is 32% faster than the GeForce GTX 1060 running "Ultra" settings and "Nightmare" settings at 1080p under the Vulkan API. Performance has increased with the more CPU bound resolution, perhaps showing one advantage of Vulkan API (and coincidently DX12 as well) the fact that CPU overhead can be reduced at lower resolutions improving performance.

At 1440p using the same playable settings found on the GeForce GTX 1060 we find the AMD Radeon RX 480 simply blows the GeForce GTX 1060 out of the water in terms of performance. While both are allowing a very high post 60FPS performance, AMD Radeon RX 480 takes it to a new level and even beats out the GeForce GTX 980! The Radeon RX 480 is performing 25% faster than the GeForce GTX 1060 under the Vulkan API, just wow."
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 20, 2016, 11:36:56 am
I'm thinking that coz they have had few paper launches recently and they had to hurry the 1060 to counter the 480. Therefore I believe they will have supply issues. Just a guess anyway.
And those couple of years lots of thing can happen coz AMD not going to sit around.
I feel NVidia rushed the entire Pascal series. The GTX 1080 came out of nowhere. Wasn't it supposed to have come out H2 originally? Perhaps they were misinformed of AMD's plans. They probably expected Polaris 10 to be a high-end chip. I'm certain all these companies have insiders in the rival companies, because they kinda seem to know what the other company is doing.

Indeed AMD won't be sitting duck. But they have more work to do, because NVidia have high-end cards and AMD don't. They first have to address that, before they can release the next-next-generation cards.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 20, 2016, 12:18:48 pm
I feel NVidia rushed the entire Pascal series. The GTX 1080 came out of nowhere. Wasn't it supposed to have come out H2 originally? Perhaps they were misinformed of AMD's plans. They probably expected Polaris 10 to be a high-end chip. I'm certain all these companies have insiders in the rival companies, because they kinda seem to know what the other company is doing.

Indeed AMD won't be sitting duck. But they have more work to do, because NVidia have high-end cards and AMD don't. They first have to address that, before they can release the next-next-generation cards.

Yes they rushed it and it worked in their favor somewhat coz AMD wasn't expecting it. It was supposed to be H2 but it wasn't ready for mass production back then I believe. Now only SK Hynix gets ready to ship HBM2 and sweet time for Vega. Why? Coz the rumors are true we will see Vega 10 before end of this year. May be in October and Vega 11 will come out to counter the 1080ti.

Also i'm not entirely sure about this coz I didn't read much in to it but somewhere I saw an article about pascal is basically the maxwell with a higher clock and a few changes.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 20, 2016, 12:46:48 pm
Yes they rushed it and it worked in their favor somewhat coz AMD wasn't expecting it. It was supposed to be H2 but it wasn't ready for mass production back then I believe. Now only SK Hynix gets ready to ship HBM2 and sweet time for Vega. Why? Coz the rumors are true we will see Vega 10 before end of this year. May be in October and Vega 11 will come out to counter the 1080ti.

Also i'm not entirely sure about this coz I didn't read much in to it but somewhere I saw an article about pascal is basically the maxwell with a higher clock and a few changes.
Yes there is hardly any architectural change. It's just the clock speed boost they got with the new process node.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 20, 2016, 05:44:27 pm
What facts again? The fact that 1060 is only perform 10% more for 25% more cost or where 480 outperform 1060 on dx12 and vulkan where the future is?

Choice is very clear in SL. 58000 for a 1060 and 43000 for 480. that's 34% more money for 1060 and for what? DX11 10- 15% performance.  :no:
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on July 20, 2016, 05:48:43 pm
AMD just need to figure out how to get day one availability of AIB partner cards. They must havw lost many sales because of this, because everyone is advising people to wait for the AIB partner cards with custom coolers and PCB designs. There definitely will be people who originally wanted to buy the RX480, turning to Nvidia because of the delay.
True. The launch of the 480 was not particular great. First off, AMD didn't really expect this much of a demand and secondly they had to fill in a massive amount of backorders. The reason the AIB cards are so delayed is because AMD wanted to mandate 8 pin power connectors on all AIB cards because of the power limitations of the reference model, and this lead most of the board partners to scrap the cards that were supposed to be released.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 20, 2016, 06:23:08 pm
This maybe out of topic but I'm really surprised how Rajiv acted reguarding this. 
Specially for a top notch vendor.  (N)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 20, 2016, 06:29:05 pm
Choice is very clear in SL. 58000 for a 1060 and 43000 for 480. that's 34% more money for 1060 and for what? DX11 10- 15% performance.  :no:


Not 58. 1060 is 54 at EGS. It makes the existence of rx480 8gb version pointless though. 4GB version is an obvious winner.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Ghostrider on July 20, 2016, 06:45:41 pm
AMD is going to lose significant amount of sales due to this stupid AIB delay
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 20, 2016, 07:33:00 pm
stfu all of you, will you? please. just go check out the reviews when they are out and buy the damn card you are pleased with.

also zero don't go over 30K and 20K for 470 and 460.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on July 20, 2016, 07:56:37 pm
Sapphire Nitro news countdown. Hope they release the card that day and not just new news. Getting freaking tired of waiting now. Going GPU less is more painful than I thought
http://sapphirenation.net/NitroYear/
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 20, 2016, 10:13:12 pm
stfu all of you, will you? please. just go check out the reviews when they are out and buy the damn card you are pleased with.

also zero don't go over 30K and 20K for 470 and 460.

What? Do you know this is a forum where people express their opinion and stuff right. Where people talk about what's good and bad. etc.. What right do you have to tell people to shut up? If you don't like it just move along without being an a**hole. Don't show your stupidity to the whole world.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 20, 2016, 10:39:02 pm
What? Do you know this is a forum where people express their opinion and stuff right. Where people talk about what's good and bad. etc.. What right do you have to tell people to shut up? If you don't like it just move along without being an a**hole. Don't show your stupidity to the whole world.
yeah ''express" "opinion" talk good and bad??!!  my ass. just go through the whole damn thread idiot and you'll know what i am saying, i was like this too, talking and arguing about every f***ing move these companies make, that's all bullshit ok, we gain absolutely nothing repeating what other countless tech sites and their countless nerd commentators do, ok, just spend some time researching and buy a damn card and move on, as i started this thread i learned how much bullshit can be talked, admins just want the discussion go on, no matter how pointless it is, what right i have, well if you want that way, i started the damn thread ok fool, yeah i show my stupidity to the whole world, you show your genius by repeating other nerds on other sites, who do you think you are?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 20, 2016, 10:50:10 pm
also zero don't go over 30K and 20K for 470 and 460.
The RX 470 doesn't appear to be a $150 card as initially thought. Our pricing indicates that it's a $180 card - which means it'll be around 38k for reference and 40k for aftermarket. Hopefully, this also means it's atleast be on-par with a GTX 970.

The 460 is 22k.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 20, 2016, 11:00:55 pm
yep i had this doubt earlier when i saw 32K for 470 and 21.5k for 460 as performance jump from 460 to 470 is enormous, now it's clear. we are being f***ed from all sides  :D

why did amd even created the 470  :D :P it is almost 480
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 21, 2016, 09:50:55 am
yeah ''express" "opinion" talk good and bad??!!  my ass. just go through the whole damn thread idiot and you'll know what i am saying, i was like this too, talking and arguing about every f***ing move these companies make, that's all bullshit ok, we gain absolutely nothing repeating what other countless tech sites and their countless nerd commentators do, ok, just spend some time researching and buy a damn card and move on, as i started this thread i learned how much bullshit can be talked, admins just want the discussion go on, no matter how pointless it is, what right i have, well if you want that way, i started the damn thread ok fool, yeah i show my stupidity to the whole world, you show your genius by repeating other nerds on other sites, who do you think you are?

Oh you started the thread. WOW you are a bad ass. On the other hand we don't care. Jus coz you started thread doesn't mean shit. If you don't like what you see just ask a admin to close down the thread instead of acting like a 10 year old. Repeating other nerds? ha ha there is something called research, keep yourself updated with latest information or may be just may be I know what I'm talking about. Either way why would you care? Coz the last time I checked this is The Internet. If I want to comment/argue or whatever I ll do it as long as it's not illegal. You see, you ain't nobody so I don't care. So might as well stop telling people what to do.
Oh one other thing. No point of arguing with stupid people so sayonara you little prick.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 21, 2016, 10:00:12 am
First off, AMD didn't really expect this much of a demand and secondly they had to fill in a massive amount of backorders.
I think AMD needs to fire some people. They have to have people who do these market researches and forecast sales, and they are not doing a good job! Perhaps, they are not used to this kind of demand since AthlonX2 and HD7000 series. :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 21, 2016, 02:41:37 pm
Oh you started the thread. WOW you are a bad ass. On the other hand we don't care. Jus coz you started thread doesn't mean shit. If you don't like what you see just ask a admin to close down the thread instead of acting like a 10 year old. Repeating other nerds? ha ha there is something called research, keep yourself updated with latest information or may be just may be I know what I'm talking about. Either way why would you care? Coz the last time I checked this is The Internet. If I want to comment/argue or whatever I ll do it as long as it's not illegal. You see, you ain't nobody so I don't care. So might as well stop telling people what to do.
Oh one other thing. No point of arguing with stupid people so sayonara you little prick.

"Oh you started the thread. WOW you are a bad ass"???!!

no that was my noob trap you imbecile, your reply exactly sounds like a 9gag kid's. other hand who asked you to care?! i said i started the thread in meaning i know how much pointless bullshit going on this thread, i mean you asked for it.

"ha ha there is something called research"

he he.. i know and all know what this research mean now boy, yeah do your "research" by just looking at the comments on the tech sites.

and yeah this is the internet and you do whatever you please and i'll say it's bullshit in the same sense as you alright?
and yes you can say goodbye, but please don't post shit like those people do in wccftech and other sites, keep the discussion on 'sri lankan level' and practical. no need to imitate.pliz.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 21, 2016, 03:21:21 pm
"Oh you started the thread. WOW you are a bad ass"???!!

no that was my noob trap you imbecile, your reply exactly sounds like a 9gag kid's. other hand who asked you to care?! i said i started the thread in meaning i know how much pointless bullshit going on this thread, i mean you asked for it.

"ha ha there is something called research"

he he.. i know and all know what this research mean now boy, yeah do your "research" by just looking at the comments on the tech sites.

and yeah this is the internet and you do whatever you please and i'll say it's bullshit in the same sense as you alright?
and yes you can say goodbye, but please don't post shit like those people do in wccftech and other sites, keep the discussion on 'sri lankan level' and practical. no need to imitate.pliz.

Dude? What are you on about? Doesn't make any sense. Sri Lankan level and practical? What?

Just coz you don't know how to do a research is not anyones problem but yours. Just hang in there who knows you might be able to do that properly someday.

The funny thing is you managed to figure me out from a comment. Oh and was it a noob trap? WOW I fell for it aren't I? Bravo I must say.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 21, 2016, 05:12:30 pm
Dude? What are you on about? Doesn't make any sense. Sri Lankan level and practical? What?

Just coz you don't know how to do a research is not anyones problem but yours. Just hang in there who knows you might be able to do that properly someday.

The funny thing is you managed to figure me out from a comment. Oh and was it a noob trap? WOW I fell for it aren't I? Bravo I must say.
what i am on about? do not spew too much of your tech 'research'  :D bullshit on this thread.
sri lankan level, i mean, really people here fuzz that much like you do your "research"?. big NO.

and haha you call reading tech sites about damn gpu core counts and pricing "research"? lol, how old are you? even in that research i accuse you of plagiarism. :D :D

yeah i sounded like a kid 'i own the damn thread', and you boy, very well raged in response to that like a 9gag kid to that, that's a noobtrap. seriously you thought i would flaunt about about starting a thread?

why you keep editing your replies? checking whether it sounds credible?  :P

silvastrike 1.6
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 21, 2016, 06:59:37 pm
what i am on about? do not spew too much of your tech 'research'  :D bullshit on this thread.
sri lankan level, i mean, really people here fuzz that much like you do your "research"?. big NO.
What? I mean what?
and haha you call reading tech sites about damn gpu core counts and pricing "research"? lol, how old are you? even in that research i accuse you of plagiarism. :D :D
See like I said you are a psychic or something. You know how exactly others do their research or how they think and all.
yeah i sounded like a kid 'i own the damn thread', and you boy, very well raged in response to that like a 9gag kid to that, that's a noobtrap. seriously you thought i would flaunt about about starting a thread?
WOW you are serious. I'm sorry I thought you were kidding. But then again people do that sometimes you know. When they realize they messed it up. But no no. You ain't like that at all.
why you keep editing your replies? checking whether it sounds credible?  :P
Oh I thought people can do that. You know since there is the option to do that. But if you don't like it I won't. FYI I typed something harsh. I didn't wanna make you cry so I changed it.
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silvastrike 1.6

Aww my internet hero.  :-* You seriously Said that aren't you.  ;D Anyway I'm seriously stopping this time. You are too easy. If you wanna feel superior on the Internet go ahead. I don't wanna embarrass you further.


Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 21, 2016, 07:33:56 pm
hmm it's reverse engineering time i guess  :D.

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What? I mean what?
lolwut? i said  already. no bullshit. can't go shorter than this.

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See like I said you are a psychic or something. You know how exactly others do their research or how they think and all.
again, if you call that research, feeling bad for you.
i mean wtf is so "research" reading tech sites :D :D

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WOW you are serious. I'm sorry I thought you were kidding
i WAS kidding, i told you, anyone at these times would flaunt for starting a thread?  :D , i do that to piss off kids like you  ;) having little fun

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FYI I typed something harsh. I didn't wanna make you cry so I changed it.
lol this is enough, don't make me cry pliz. let's others judge the maturity. :P

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Aww my internet hero.  :-* You seriously Said that aren't you.  ;D Anyway I'm seriously stopping this time. You are too easy. If you wanna feel superior on the Internet go ahead. I don't wanna embarrass you further.
nah man, i used to walk on people's head in cs, somehow it's referencing of what i am doing with you  :P so it's silvastrike 1.6 :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 21, 2016, 07:55:10 pm
 :stupid:   :stupid:  :stupid:  :stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW76_XYMkFs
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on July 21, 2016, 09:08:03 pm
:stupid:   :stupid:  :stupid:  :stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW76_XYMkFs
I lost it after seeing this ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on July 21, 2016, 09:12:22 pm
lol Alucard.

Chill you two. : )
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 21, 2016, 09:27:22 pm
:stupid:   :stupid:  :stupid:  :stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW76_XYMkFs

This. lmfao ;D ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: CheapNoob on July 21, 2016, 09:30:07 pm
Can we stop with the bickering kid fights?

kthanxbai
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 21, 2016, 10:49:55 pm
truckerice is actually my kid self ;)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on July 21, 2016, 11:02:26 pm
:stupid:   :stupid:  :stupid:  :stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW76_XYMkFs
You guys using Internet explorer or something?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 21, 2016, 11:53:34 pm
The RX 470 doesn't appear to be a $150 card as initially thought. Our pricing indicates that it's a $180 card - which means it'll be around 38k for reference and 40k for aftermarket. Hopefully, this also means it's atleast be on-par with a GTX 970.

The 460 is 22k.

There are two versions of RX470, 4GB and 8GB.
RX470 4GB will be a $150 card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 22, 2016, 12:23:13 am
There are two versions of RX470, 4GB and 8GB.
Yes.

RX470 4GB will be a $150 card.
No.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 22, 2016, 12:48:51 am
Yes.
No.


So you are saying that 4GB version will be 180USD. and it is RS 40000 in RL. Okay.

Then the RX 470 8GB version must be cheaper than 480 4GB. So RX 470 8GB price must be lower than 43000.   :\
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: vEnGaNcE GaMeR on July 22, 2016, 05:44:37 am
I thought coming here from notifications that there might have been some important information, i was wrong.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 22, 2016, 07:25:32 am

So you are saying that 4GB version will be 180USD. and it is RS 40000 in RL. Okay.

Then the RX 470 8GB version must be cheaper than 480 4GB. So RX 470 8GB price must be lower than 43000.   :\
Indeed , these are some f***ed up pricing, not sure who are the culprits.

but guys if you try to rip off , it'll sure backfire, universe / god / Allah works in mysterious ways, believe that and be honest in your earning.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: FL4SH on July 23, 2016, 12:58:45 pm
I thought coming here from notifications that there might have been some important information, i was wrong.

 well me too! and did lot of scrolling.. this thread is far more informative. I don't miss this thread because of that. so let's keep it that way. shall we?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 23, 2016, 01:31:24 pm
well me too! and did lot of scrolling.. this thread is far more informative. I don't miss this thread because of that. so let's keep it that way. shall we?
I know man. It was but Silva doesn't like it. What can we do? He is the Forum guru after all. Anyway I will stop. No point of arguing with stupid people and I had my fun.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 23, 2016, 05:55:52 pm
I know man. It was but Silva doesn't like it. What can we do? He is the Forum guru after all. Anyway I will stop. No point of arguing with stupid people and I had my fun.
you continuously fail on posing like a mature after f***ing up lol, why you keep telling you had laugh and fun? a subconscious attempt at damage control? :D  and believe me i swear i didn't had fun with you *chuckle
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 23, 2016, 07:11:19 pm
you continuously fail on posing like a mature after f***ing up lol, why you keep telling you had laugh and fun? a subconscious attempt at damage control? :D  and believe me i swear i didn't had fun with you *chuckle
Obviously. Who said it was fun for you? I said I had fun. Anyway I'm done.

On serious note please try to understand what others are saying before replying. You sounds like a fool otherwise. Trust me when I say this it's not the first time that happened to u. Have a good day!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 24, 2016, 10:37:12 am
Obviously. Who said it was fun for you? I said I had fun. Anyway I'm done.

On serious note please try to understand what others are saying before replying. You sounds like a fool otherwise. Trust me when I say this it's not the first time that happened to u. Have a good day!
you idiot don't talk about understanding, you can't even get the point of that *chuckle at the end of my reply, then thinking i didn't had fun with you? * chuckle again,
oh yeah ? this isn't the first time for me? when before? i would accept if i was wrong, because i am an adult, you are just a little lamb, you have a good day too, and ofc a terrible accident too  :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 26, 2016, 12:25:53 pm

And on a more informative note,
More details out;
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(http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/07/AMD-Radeon-RX-470-RX-460-launch-dates.png)
This picture allegedly shows the launch dates of RX 460 and RX 470 graphics cards. The presence of X-Serial suggests we are looking at Dataland models.
AMD Radeon RX 470 would therefore launch on August 4th, while RX 460 is expected in less than 3 days (July 28th). I only managed to confirm that 4th August is indeed the launch date for RX 470, but I can’t confirm RX 460 date just yet.
This list would also suggest that both RX 460 and RX 470 would launch with different memory configurations — reference cards are equipped with 2GB (RX 460) and 4GB (RX 470).
Update: we were told that launch date for RX 460 mentioned in this post was indeed correct, but it was changed. Card was pushed back to launch after RX 470. So in other words, RX 460 may arrive later.
Source: Chiphell
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 26, 2016, 12:30:11 pm
The RX480 must be the 36 SP version. So roughly 11% faster.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 26, 2016, 05:25:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSe_psJ9-iA
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 26, 2016, 05:38:15 pm
But this is an AMD thread ;)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Arceus on July 26, 2016, 05:52:32 pm
But this is an AMD thread ;)

Can't blame the man for trying
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 26, 2016, 05:53:11 pm
But this is an AMD thread ;)



Yes here the AMD Link, Sorry forgot that it was AMD.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 26, 2016, 05:54:19 pm
Any how now the Reds are selling NVIDIA
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 26, 2016, 05:55:54 pm
Any how now the Reds are selling NVIDIA
It's wiser not to pick just one team.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on July 26, 2016, 06:11:51 pm
It's wiser not to pick just one team.

I like that, but unfortunately the GPU biz is 2 side of a coin like the CPU, 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 26, 2016, 07:03:52 pm
https://youtu.be/lXijkS_qIzA (https://youtu.be/lXijkS_qIzA)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 26, 2016, 08:07:22 pm
But this is an AMD thread ;)
why so strict? even i talked load of bs, he is atleast taling about his cards  :D :P

and fellas, AN HONEST REQUEST / FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR POTENTIAL AMD UPGRADERS THIS SEASON

whatever you do, just don't f***ing purchase the f***ing  rx 470, period.
just see the pricing , how ridiculous it is, originally was a 150 $ card, after realizing the card is only about 10 % slower than 480 someone decides to milk us (be it amd, sapphire or someone else)
all the math lessons , economic lessons....that card's pricing is still f***ed up. period. we were all drooling realizing card's potential price / buck ratio right, suddenly someone decided, hey let's just sell this like 480. no thanks.

fellas , if you want, just buy 480, 40k for 470 and 43 k for 480? seriously?

BOYCOTT 470. let them rot in their shelves. be lessons learned.

remember this rage is only at people who are trying to rip us.
think before buying.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 26, 2016, 10:00:12 pm
why so strict? even i talked load of bs, he is atleast taling about his cards  :D :P

and fellas, AN HONEST REQUEST / FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR POTENTIAL AMD UPGRADERS THIS SEASON

whatever you do, just don't f***ing purchase the f***ing  rx 470, period.
just see the pricing , how ridiculous it is, originally was a 150 $ card, after realizing the card is only about 10 % slower than 480 someone decides to milk us (be it amd, sapphire or someone else)
all the math lessons , economic lessons....that card's pricing is still f***ed up. period. we were all drooling realizing card's potential price / buck ratio right, suddenly someone decided, hey let's just sell this like 480. no thanks.

fellas , if you want, just buy 480, 40k for 470 and 43 k for 480? seriously?

BOYCOTT 470. let them rot in their shelves. be lessons learned.

remember this rage is only at people who are trying to rip us.
think before buying.



Bro this is why they say take this rumor with a grain of salt. The card was only speculated to be a 150$ card. Nobody confirmed it, not even AMD. Check this out


http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-rx-460-graphics-cards-pictured_184573 (http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-rx-460-graphics-cards-pictured_184573)

Doesn't this answer all your questions. So if the Difference is only 20$ worth in MSRP for the Sapphire card then 3000 when converted to LKR after tax and stuff (IDK anything bout this stuff) is totally acceptable.

Quote

VideoCardz has published pictures of Sapphire’s upcoming Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 graphics cards, so it looks like the launch is getting close for these new Polaris 10 Pro GPU parts.
Rumor has it that this card will be priced slightly lower than the AMD Radeon RX 480 with many pointing at $179 as the suggested retail price. There is no reference design for the AMD Radeon RX 470 or Radeon RX 460 though, so the price points targeted by AMD will vary depending on the board partners designs and build costs[/qoute]
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Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 26, 2016, 10:13:34 pm


Doesn't this answer all your questions. So if the Difference is only 20$ worth in MSRP for the Sapphire card then 3000 when converted to LKR after tax and stuff (IDK anything bout this stuff) is totally acceptable.

It's not exactly about them ripping us off man, even if what you've posted is true (I didn't read it),The thing is one who is able to spend 40k on a 470, could definitetely add more 3k and buy the better 480.

So this actually doesn't make sense. - AMD making a 470 & pricing it like this.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 26, 2016, 10:22:54 pm
-snip-
Aftermarket $280 card is faster than a $200 reference card? Is that all you got? tsk tsk.

It's not exactly about them ripping us off man, even if what you've posted is true (I didn't read it),The thing is one who is able to spend 40k on a 470, could definitetely add more 3k and buy the better 480.

So this actually doesn't make sense. - AMD making a 470 & pricing it like this.
UNLESS, the RX 470 is like only a few % slower than a RX 480, making the RX 480 obsolete. AMD works in mysterious ways :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 26, 2016, 10:24:47 pm
It's not exactly about them ripping us off man, even if what you've posted is true (I didn't read it),The thing is one who is able to spend 40k on a 470, could definitetely add more 3k and buy the better 480.

So this actually doesn't make sense. - AMD making a 470 & pricing it like this.


That is indeed a good point. The existence of the card is quite unjustified.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 26, 2016, 10:29:30 pm
Aftermarket $280 card is faster than a $200 reference card? Is that all you got? tsk tsk.
UNLESS, the RX 470 is like only a few % slower than a RX 480, making the RX 480 obsolete. AMD works in mysterious ways :P


Since the 470 is esentially a 480 with 4 less CUs how would this even happen.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 26, 2016, 10:33:41 pm

UNLESS, the RX 470 is like only a few % slower than a RX 480, making the RX 480 obsolete. AMD works in mysterious ways :P

Are you saying there's a chance that they'll stop producing at least the 4GB varient of the 480?
If so a very bad move imo. Will make my love for AMD go away
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 26, 2016, 10:40:11 pm

Since the 470 is esentially a 480 with 4 less CUs how would this even happen.
Faster clocks. A good recent example would be the GTX 970 vs GTX 980. If the RX 470 has 11% less CUs, it would theoretically need a clock speed 12.5% faster to achieve the same performance.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 27, 2016, 06:44:03 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFj_GY5u6v8
@zero Is this what you guys are bringing down for the Sapphire 470
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on July 27, 2016, 08:47:52 pm
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The ultimate budget graphics card for 1080p gaming: Radeon RX 470 4GB for $149 and Radeon RX 470 8GB for $179

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-460-28-july-radeon-rx-470-4-august-double-performance/ (http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-460-28-july-radeon-rx-470-4-august-double-performance/)


@ Zero any change on the expected pricing again ? Back down to 32 ?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 27, 2016, 09:51:38 pm
http://videocardz.com/62672/amd-radeon-rx-470-and-radeon-rx-460-official-specs-and-performance (http://videocardz.com/62672/amd-radeon-rx-470-and-radeon-rx-460-official-specs-and-performance)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:31 pm
http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-460-28-july-radeon-rx-470-4-august-double-performance/ (http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-460-28-july-radeon-rx-470-4-august-double-performance/)


@ Zero any change on the expected pricing again ? Back down to 32 ?
Wait until the cards are on sale.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on July 28, 2016, 02:47:47 am
It's not exactly about them ripping us off man, even if what you've posted is true (I didn't read it),The thing is one who is able to spend 40k on a 470, could definitetely add more 3k and buy the better 480.

So this actually doesn't make sense. - AMD making a 470 & pricing it like this.
What I think they are telling you to do is either buy the 4GB RX 470 or the 8GB RX 480, which has a substantial price difference between them. The 4GB RX 480 which nobody seem to recommend these days is a marketing ploy. So when you talk about the RX 480, they can call it a $199. But they sell "it" for $239.

Just like the TX 1070/1080. The actual card is close to $449/699 but the RRP is $379/$599 although you probably won't ever find a card that low.

It's just to artificially make the user think the card is cheaper when comparing price to performance.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 28, 2016, 09:10:15 am
What I think they are telling you to do is either buy the 4GB RX 470 or the 8GB RX 480, which has a substantial price difference between them. The 4GB RX 480 which nobody seem to recommend these days is a marketing ploy. So when you talk about the RX 480, they can call it a $199. But they sell "it" for $239.

Just like the TX 1070/1080. The actual card is close to $449/699 but the RRP is $379/$599 although you probably won't ever find a card that low.

It's just to artificially make the user think the card is cheaper when comparing price to performance.

This. Although I recommend 8GB over 4GB.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on July 28, 2016, 09:59:51 am
This. Although I recommend 8GB over 4GB.
Why though? I tried Watcher 3 and ARK maxed out on 4K on a GTX 1080 and VRAM usage was around 4GB or lower even with AA set to the highest possible level. This is a game that barely gave playable FPS at that setting, yet didn't use 8GB of VRAM. Not sure why you'd need to buy a 8GB card over a 4GB card for a mid range card like a RX 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 28, 2016, 12:18:45 pm
Why though? I tried Watcher 3 and ARK maxed out on 4K on a GTX 1080 and VRAM usage was around 4GB or lower even with AA set to the highest possible level. This is a game that barely gave playable FPS at that setting, yet didn't use 8GB of VRAM. Not sure why you'd need to buy a 8GB card over a 4GB card for a mid range card like a RX 480.

For me  it's all about future proofing. You don't wanna buy a card that can play current games but not the games that supposed to come out in the future unless ofc you are on a tight budget. Since there is not that much of a difference in pricing between 4GB and 8GB you might as well go for the 8GB one so you don't have to change your graphics card in near future.

As an example Mirror's Edge with higher quality settings, or Asssassin's Creed is already using more than 4GB. Then again it all depends on the game as well. Also the memory clock is low on 4GB card and I don't think you can OC it to match the 8GB version.

As a side note If you thinking about buying a WQHD screen forget about the 4GB version.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on July 28, 2016, 06:59:05 pm
@truckerice
you are not doing anything with vram without an accompanying amount of cores, extra vram on midrange cards are only for specific applications or games  which may prefer vram over core count (big argument for this an year ago).  you can't future-proof with vram on mid range card. and i think 4gig still can manage on wqhd on conventional games.

@zero
not playable even with 1080? i am happy with my 1080...........................p resolution i mean. btw it's a privilege to even witness a slideshow on 4k :D redline should've  brought much 470 4gb , 480 8gb and 460 2gb than less quantity of all variations.



to all other folks,

guys, 470 pricing still f***ed up, don't buy it. don't let anyone milk you. like anusha said amd really needs to fire people who made this f***ed up lineup of cards. but it's also the greedy aib partners and retailers  taking advantage of that 10 % between 470 and 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 29, 2016, 10:15:03 pm
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/94969-sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-4gb-8gb-oc/?page=10

RX 480 & ROTTR: 25% 1080p Performance Increase w/ Nitro AIB & Crimson 16.7.3 driver
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 30, 2016, 03:59:17 pm
to all other folks,

guys, 470 pricing still f***ed up, don't buy it. don't let anyone milk you. like anusha said amd really needs to fire people who made this f***ed up lineup of cards. but it's also the greedy aib partners and retailers  taking advantage of that 10 % between 470 and 480.

Of course the price is [email protected] up. 40k for the RX 470 4GB. So there won't be a place for the RX 470 8GB version. Wait 6 more days so we can see legit prices of these cards. If it's 150$, I can easily get it down here for around 30k. No need damn warranty for that price. :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on July 30, 2016, 04:35:31 pm
Of course the price is [email protected] up. 40k for the RX 470 4GB. So there won't be a place for the RX 470 8GB version. Wait 6 more days so we can see legit prices of these cards. If it's 150$, I can easily get it down here for around 30k. No need damn warranty for that price. :D
can u get other things down here?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Alucard on July 30, 2016, 04:45:49 pm
Of course the price is [email protected] up. 40k for the RX 470 4GB. So there won't be a place for the RX 470 8GB version. Wait 6 more days so we can see legit prices of these cards. If it's 150$, I can easily get it down here for around 30k. No need damn warranty for that price. :D

Actually it feels like there won't be a place for RX 480 4GB
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: INSANITY on July 30, 2016, 05:32:17 pm
can u get other things down here?

If you pay for taxes and all, i will bring down anything. I did all the importing stuff for one of the biggest casinos in SL.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on July 30, 2016, 07:25:21 pm
BTW, does anyone have a list of Vulkan based games coming out in the next couple of years? Because, if the list is small, NVidia can always come back strong when it really matters.

@Anusha

(http://i.imgur.com/ZEXVOtW.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Anusha on August 02, 2016, 09:34:28 am
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/94969-sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-4gb-8gb-oc/?page=10

RX 480 & ROTTR: 25% 1080p Performance Increase w/ Nitro AIB & Crimson 16.7.3 driver

It probably has a lot to do with stable clocks with the Sapphire card than any driver tweaks.

It's sad that even the AIB partner cards cannot break the 1400MHz barrier with better power delivery and better cooling.

@Anusha

(http://i.imgur.com/ZEXVOtW.jpg)

That's a longer list than I expected.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on August 02, 2016, 04:34:47 pm
It probably has a lot to do with stable clocks with the Sapphire card than any driver tweaks.

It's sad that even the AIB partner cards cannot break the 1400MHz barrier with better power delivery and better cooling.

That's a longer list than I expected.

Still 25% is a lot and AMD card do age well as well.

Yes the list is impressive since it's still the beginning and from now on most games will come atleast supporting DX12. For me it's all about BF1 :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 04, 2016, 07:43:41 pm
RX 470 reviews are out.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1607790/various-rx-470-reviews#post_25408214

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2rhblua.png)

What did I tell you, aftermarket cards are as fast as the reference RX 480s  ;D.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 04, 2016, 07:56:29 pm
who the f*** wants a 470 for 40K and more? fack aff! ;D

right guys?


let 470 or 480 rot in the shelves. teach them a lesson. i am counting on you all. ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 04, 2016, 08:02:52 pm
Of course the price is [email protected] up. 40k for the RX 470 4GB. So there won't be a place for the RX 470 8GB version. Wait 6 more days so we can see legit prices of these cards. If it's 150$, I can easily get it down here for around 30k. No need damn warranty for that price. :D
MSRP is $180 and the Sapphire Nitro cards are selling for $210 and $240.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on August 04, 2016, 08:25:03 pm
MSRP is $180 and the Sapphire Nitro cards are selling for $210 and $240.
So......you're telling me that a 210$ card performs as good as a 200$ card ???
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 04, 2016, 08:29:24 pm
So......you're telling me that a 210$ card performs as good as a 200$ card ???

AMD, aib partners, retailers at work.

milking evolved.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 04, 2016, 08:40:16 pm
So......you're telling me that a 210$ card performs as good as a 200$ card ???
That $200 card is also nowhere to be found, just like the $380 GTX 1070 and the $600 GTX 1080.

MSRP is supposed to be $190, but I suppose demand/scarcity is driving up prices. $210 is supposed to be the MSRP of a RX 480 Nitro, not a 470.

If you compare MSRPs, then you have a $190 aftermarket card with a beefy cooler/lighting/backplate matching a $200 reference card with a reference cooler.

At current prices on Newegg/Amazon, no, nothing makes sense.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on August 04, 2016, 10:39:21 pm
When can we expect these cards to arrive in Srilanka ? I understand there is a scarcity of cards even in international market.But the cards that Redline ordered should be on the way right ?

Life without a GPU sucks. Sold mine few weeks ago !
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 04, 2016, 10:49:17 pm
When can we expect these cards to arrive in Srilanka ? I understand there is a scarcity of cards even in international market.But the cards that Redline ordered should be on the way right ?

Life without a GPU sucks. Sold mine few weeks ago !
We only got like half of our order. The 460/470 should be here by the end of next week. The 480s a week later.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on August 05, 2016, 06:01:26 am
We only got like half of our order. The 460/470 should be here by the end of next week.The 480s a week later.

If I pay you Rs 20 000/- tomorrow, can I reserve a 480 4GB card? I have a hunch those cards will sell in double quick time.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on August 05, 2016, 06:02:04 am
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Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on August 05, 2016, 06:53:44 am
$210 is supposed to be the MSRP of a RX 480 Nitro, not a 470.

My bad
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on August 05, 2016, 10:23:12 am
RX 470 benchmarks out. Let the discussion begin!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 05, 2016, 10:48:00 am
RX 470 benchmarks out. Let the discussion begin!
what discussion? they are 480 and priced same. what else? :P
how could a big tech corp do something this silly and dumb?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 05, 2016, 07:16:20 pm
If I pay you Rs 20 000/- tomorrow, can I reserve a 480 4GB card? I have a hunch those cards will sell in double quick time.
All our current allocation is pre-booked at the moment. Hopefully there will be more cards available by the time we ship them.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on August 05, 2016, 08:33:41 pm
what discussion? they are 480 and priced same. what else? :P
how could a big tech corp do something this silly and dumb?
Price of 4GB RX 480 AIB card = $229
Price of 4GB RX 470 AIB card = $199

That's a $30 dollar difference and it makes sense because the performance of the 470 is only a hair short of the 480. Also, if AMD sold this at $149 then that is not a smart move either because it would make the RX 480 literally obsolete.

Seems like the 470 is the "real" sweet spot card.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 05, 2016, 08:43:30 pm
Price of 4GB RX 480 AIB card = $229
Price of 4GB RX 470 AIB card = $199

That's a $30 dollar difference and it makes sense because the performance of the 470 is only a hair short of the 480. Also, if AMD sold this at $149 then that is not a smart move either because it would make the RX 480 literally obsolete.

Seems like the 470 is the "real" sweet spot card.
agreed, they should've just cut down the chip  (maybe 1500 cores and less other whistles) or something and should've priced it 150 $ like advertised earlier, they just made it too close to 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on August 05, 2016, 09:30:44 pm
All our current allocation is pre-booked at the moment. Hopefully there will be more cards available by the time we ship them.

sigh!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 07, 2016, 09:06:33 am
rx 460 totally f***ed up guys, not even able to edge 750 ti, 260X..
wtf is the the 2X performance? in moba my ass!

how the f*** you can sell a card that's same as the 750 ti and 260X for 22.5K?!
and there is a 4 GB for my ass in this 'POWAH' for 27 K!!

hopefully it'll get little better with driver update, this explains the 470 pricing lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on August 07, 2016, 02:11:00 pm
rx 460 totally f***ed up guys, not even able to edge 750 ti, 260X..
wtf is the the 2X performance? in moba my ass!

how the f*** you can sell a card that's same as the 750 ti and 260X for 22.5K?!
and there is a 4 GB for my ass in this 'POWAH' for 27 K!!

hopefully it'll get little better with driver update, this explains the 470 pricing lol.


Not a fan of all of ur opinions but I 100% agree with u on this. AMD need to fire some staff lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: KaTana on August 07, 2016, 02:13:20 pm
@ RL though, unless driver optimizations can put this above the 950. I suggest not bringing down this card lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 07, 2016, 02:58:27 pm
The only 'benchmarks' available right now are badly photoshopped from a RX 470 review. Wait until tomorrow :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 07, 2016, 10:57:50 pm
it has similar core count as 260X, but so much for the 14nm fin f***ing fet shrinkage
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on August 11, 2016, 09:10:17 pm
So the week is almost over, but no new cards have arrived yet. (Sob)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 11, 2016, 10:07:17 pm
so what about the actual benchmarks? is it really worth it? didn't even bother to check  :P
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on August 11, 2016, 10:32:15 pm
(https://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Silva on August 12, 2016, 12:29:02 pm
hmm not bad as previous earlier 'leaks', vulkan perf was satisfying hopefully dx11 gets improved with drivers too. yet not impressive as they said.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on September 16, 2016, 04:50:45 pm
Well that didn't take long. I expected it, but not so soon.
Release-
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/ext/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS82L0svNTk2Mzk2L29yaWdpbmFsL3dpdGNoZXItMTl4MTAtZnBzLnBuZw==/r_600x450.png)

Now- Its not much but its already ahead of 1060. This is with latest 16.9.1
(https://i.redd.it/3i4zz7oitulx.jpg)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on September 16, 2016, 06:11:34 pm
All is good with AMD, except they didn't release enough cards that most people ended up buying 1060s, including myself.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on September 16, 2016, 06:25:27 pm
I wouldn't regret buying a 1060 though. You can overclock those things really well. But the RX 480 is definitely more future proof though (Drivers, Async Compute, and higher VRAM).
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on September 16, 2016, 07:32:54 pm
Yeah saw this earlier and the funny thing is witcher 3 is a nvidia game and RX470 is beating 1060.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on September 16, 2016, 09:27:48 pm
I wouldn't regret buying a 1060 though. You can overclock those things really well. But the RX 480 is definitely more future proof though (Drivers, Async Compute, and higher VRAM).

It's not regretting per say, but AMD must have lost lots of sales by not having enough cards in the market during the launch period. 1060 was launched much later, yet had aftermarket cards in no time.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: FL4SH on September 17, 2016, 08:49:38 am
Well that didn't take long. I expected it, but not so soon.
Release-
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/ext/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS82L0svNTk2Mzk2L29yaWdpbmFsL3dpdGNoZXItMTl4MTAtZnBzLnBuZw==/r_600x450.png)

Now- Its not much but its already ahead of 1060. This is with latest 16.9.1
(https://i.redd.it/3i4zz7oitulx.jpg)


change of plans!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on September 17, 2016, 06:35:48 pm
This was a much needed fix because the CPU overhead for AMD drivers was always higher than Nvidia's. This should help close the gap with those DX11 titles, most of which is currently dominated by Nvidia cards.

Also, more good news - AMD is finally dropping the shitty gaming evolved client. Way to go AMD!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on October 14, 2016, 07:56:10 am
This is what I've been saying for months.

Early benchmark I know but

Edit - https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/battlefield-1-benchmarks-gamegpu-the-rest.2488968/
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ramishka on October 14, 2016, 11:33:45 am
Is the lack of AMD cards on the market a global phenomenon or just Sri lankan?

Btw I got a GTX 1060 6GB as a gift from my wife and the card has maxed out every game I threw at it so far. And it never runs above 70C at load. With AMD's driver updates, 480 should be able to match 1060s performance. But there is no reason to regret or lose sleep if you got either card because both seem to be great cards with no major differences in performance.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on October 14, 2016, 11:41:29 am
Is the lack of AMD cards on the market a global phenomenon or just Sri lankan?

Btw I got a GTX 1060 6GB as a gift from my wife and the card has maxed out every game I threw at it so far. And it never runs above 70C at load. With AMD's driver updates, 480 should be able to match 1060s performance. But there is no reason to regret or lose sleep if you got either card because both seem to be great cards with no major differences in performance.

Did you marry a gamer girl?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ramishka on October 14, 2016, 11:54:26 am
Did you marry a gamer girl?

Haha. Yes
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: JanithDeSilva on October 14, 2016, 03:32:48 pm
Haha. Yes
she knows you cant pause an online game
u must be living the life ;D ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ramishka on October 14, 2016, 04:08:17 pm
she knows you cant pause an online game
u must be living the life ;D ;D

Haha ironically I don't play online games :D . Just plain old single player. But yeah it's easier to live with someone when the interests are similar.

Btw anyone saw the GoW4 benchmarks? It's a proper DX12 title.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gears-of-war-4-pc-vga-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,1.html
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: wald on October 14, 2016, 05:31:43 pm
Haha. Yes
You are a legend bro ::)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on October 18, 2016, 05:22:32 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxsIOV2AjMc

Battlefield 1 analysis results are in :D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on November 04, 2016, 10:20:49 pm
Aaaand we have a winner :D

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/call_of_duty_infinite_warfare_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,6.html

Some said 480 can't even beat 970.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: amjad33 on November 04, 2016, 11:08:51 pm
Aaaand we have a winner :D

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/call_of_duty_infinite_warfare_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,6.html

Some said 480 can't even beat 970.
Stop making me feel good about myself ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on November 04, 2016, 11:16:31 pm
"But the GTX 1060 is faster in DirectX 11 games!!!!"







lol.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on December 06, 2016, 11:18:28 am
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html)

"AMD FineWine™ Technology strikes again"
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on December 06, 2016, 11:43:33 am
How can i remove myself from this thread to prevent myself from feeling shit about my 1060 purchase every time someone posts some awesome update about 480 cards? (Sigh)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on December 06, 2016, 11:47:26 am
how much slower is the RX480 4GB one compare to the 8GB one?.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on December 06, 2016, 11:49:58 am
How can i remove myself from this thread to prevent myself from feeling shit about my 1060 purchase every time someone posts some awesome update about 480 cards? (Sigh)

Hey man I'm really sorry that wasn't my intention.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on December 06, 2016, 09:16:08 pm
how much slower is the RX480 4GB one compare to the 8GB one?.

Same speed. The 8GB model has slightly higher memory bandwidth. Shouldn't have any noticeable effect on framerate though. You can OC this to get it up to speed with the 8GB one if it icks you that much.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on December 06, 2016, 10:02:53 pm
how much slower is the RX480 4GB one compare to the 8GB one?.
The difference is the memory speed (and therefore the memory bandwidth). The 8GB comes with 2000Mhz default and the 4GB 1750Mhz. The first thing I did when I got my 4GB card was set the memory speed to 2000Mhz and it's been running stable since.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: darkknight90 on December 07, 2016, 07:06:26 am
Hi fellow gamers, i just came across the news of amd crimson relive driver update :)
It will be released soon. very excited to see even a bit of improvement in my RX 460. I was regretting a bit about little more performance by  nvidia GTX 1050 and not waiting for it. Now AMD is making me be at peace  8) :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on December 07, 2016, 07:59:52 am
http://videocardz.com/64496/amd-preparing-crimson-relive-driver-update (http://videocardz.com/64496/amd-preparing-crimson-relive-driver-update)

Oh yes!
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: darkknight90 on December 09, 2016, 03:32:25 pm
Hi all
Installed 16.12.1
Nothing in terms of fps changed. at least for my RX 460.minimum fps in GTA 5 seems 2-3 higher. frame times also seems to be a bit lower now.
Witcher 3 , same. haven't tested anything else.
Haven't enable chill nor tried relive. no need for that with a RX 460.
But the UI is more fluid now, wattman no longer crashing.

Hmm I expected a bit more :\
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on December 09, 2016, 03:55:02 pm
Hi all
Installed 16.12.1
Nothing in terms of fps changed. at least for my RX 460.minimum fps in GTA 5 seems 2-3 higher. frame times also seems to be a bit lower now.
Witcher 3 , same. haven't tested anything else.
Haven't enable chill nor tried relive. no need for that with a RX 460.
But the UI is more fluid now, wattman no longer crashing.

Hmm I expected a bit more :\

What exactly did u expect? You didn't try chill nor relive and I'm assuming you don't have a freesync monitor either. Basically you didn't try any of the big features that came up with it and here you are saying you need more? They never said you ll get a huge performance boost with it anyway.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on December 11, 2016, 08:39:01 am
The Day 1 drivers for the 400 series was already heavily optimized on launch, so the improvements you get with following releases is slightly less apparent. But like truckerice mentioned it was more about the software features than mere FPS improvements. Now there is no excuse for the average user to get an AMD card instead of an Nvidia because of features like ShadowPlay.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: darkknight90 on December 11, 2016, 11:58:24 pm
Hi truckerice,xyberninja
Yes, this driver was all about relive and chill, not mention of perfomance in release notes.
I was fooled by the 'performance' in triangle advertisement they did for this drive. maybe they meant perfomance of the UI. :D

BUT

they great news is this, like gods not like to disappoint the radeon RX 460 owners,
THEY CAN BE UNLOCKED TO MORE PERFORMANCE.
I read this article by that tech site:

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-460-polaris-11-unlock/

I am now waiting for a sapphire radeon RX 460 BIOS file and instructions  :)
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on December 30, 2016, 09:09:03 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ugW_iwVfZo
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on December 30, 2016, 09:10:57 pm
Despite all the positives for the AMD cards, we don't have enough stocks in the market when the user is looking for one. If this be the case, bring in more AMD Cards from different manufactures pls.

Whether it be Unity, EGS (who is an avid believer of the almighty power of NVIDEA), Nanotek or even Redline, the local market is never short of Nvidea cards. One of my friends also bought a NVIDEA card recently as he couldn't find a 480.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 01, 2017, 11:06:18 pm
Get excited people. Vega is coming.

http://ve.ga/

https://youtu.be/9R8F-aN6W4g

Check out 0.07 mark. AMD triolling nvidia  ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 05, 2017, 03:30:10 pm
There we go again

http://videocardz.com/65406/exclusive-amd-vega-presentation
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Xyb3rNinja on January 05, 2017, 08:52:17 pm
There's some good info there, but seriously, I think AMD is better off firing their entire marketing department and just divert the budget to improve their R&D.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Type R on January 05, 2017, 08:59:25 pm
so 490X is a vega?.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on January 06, 2017, 09:16:06 am
http://videocardz.com/64677/amd-announces-first-vega-accelerator-radeon-instinct-mi25-for-deep-learning
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on January 06, 2017, 09:19:14 am
Something you guys can read if u hv time.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4033305-amd-vega-pros-cons-now?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-widget
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 06, 2017, 12:57:05 pm
Something you guys can read if u hv time.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4033305-amd-vega-pros-cons-now?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-widget

What a load of bullshit. How do u even finding these stuff? Tying to derail the hype train again I see

Vega isn't 1 year late. Why everyone thinks that?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on January 06, 2017, 02:07:58 pm
What a load of bullshit. How do u even finding these stuff? Tying to derail the hype train again I see

Vega isn't 1 year late. Why everyone thinks that?

Lmao Why is EGS so much against AMD?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 06, 2017, 02:52:33 pm
Lmao Why is EGS so much against AMD?

I know right. Let people buy what they want without misleading them. Sell AMD cards if you think people are leaning towards AMD now. Can't be that hard to bring them down.

May be next time post a article from a reputable site.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11002/the-amd-vega-gpu-architecture-teaser
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on January 06, 2017, 08:08:06 pm
EGS stopped making comments the moment 480 inevitably started to edge ahead and win the battle against 1060. He was vociferous and making comments when 1060 came initially and was doing better than 480 on dx 11 titles.

It would really help everyone if you can bring AMD cards because SriLankan market can do with more ATI dealers. They offer best bang for bucks.

We need the best that we can buy for our money as most of us are budget conscious.

This is from a Nvidea user btw. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on January 07, 2017, 12:08:28 am
Now this is y we dont feed sensitive details with young guys who think they r right. They will always be hell bent right. Its good all ways to be correct. But we r doing biz n not playing games so for us we need to evaluate them before ordering stuff.

In SL some try to control others so u may not get what u will want. Well if AMD is going to give me profits well even I will bring down. NVIDIA is not my Brother or AMD is not my Farther to support them they are brands and if we get proper contact we will bring and sell. We dont keep changing from brand to Brand or take what others bring. In SL their are 2 Brands for AMD so you guys should ask them to bring more AMD than NVIDIA, why r they getting More NVIDIA than AMD ?

Some time back we did a lot of AMD what most of you would hv thought of, we got ASUS and were selling more than NVIDIA. But once we started ZOTAC we r doing it.

So dont think NVIDIA is my brand or AMD is not my Brand. But the link we provided has very accurate data. So Truckrice since u r not in to sensitive data for u its not reputable, i cannot blame u, u r only a gamer. 
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ramishka on January 07, 2017, 01:17:06 am
Now this is y we dont feed sensitive details with young guys who think they r right. They will always be hell bent right. Its good all ways to be correct. But we r doing biz n not playing games so for us we need to evaluate them before ordering stuff.

In SL some try to control others so u may not get what u will want. Well if AMD is going to give me profits well even I will bring down. NVIDIA is not my Brother or AMD is not my Farther to support them they are brands and if we get proper contact we will bring and sell. We dont keep changing from brand to Brand or take what others bring. In SL their are 2 Brands for AMD so you guys should ask them to bring more AMD than NVIDIA, why r they getting More NVIDIA than AMD ?

Some time back we did a lot of AMD what most of you would hv thought of, we got ASUS and were selling more than NVIDIA. But once we started ZOTAC we r doing it.

So dont think NVIDIA is my brand or AMD is not my Brand. But the link we provided has very accurate data. So Truckrice since u r not in to sensitive data for u its not reputable, i cannot blame u, u r only a gamer. 

I actually purchased an ASUS Radeon HD7850 from you back in early 2013 as I remember. The card runs well to date and has aged well.

But really, every time I check, the Rx480 is always out of stock at vendors who sell it. And there is at least one variant of 1060 6GB in stock with the same vendors. What is the reason for it? Do Sri lankans favor Nvidia over AMD that much?
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Grim Raven on January 07, 2017, 02:16:38 am
Yeah you speak of two vendors. But it's like those two against the rest of the world now. All the other shops, including those at unity only have nvidea. There used to be days where AMD was widely available. I bought my first entry level gpu - Ati 5570 from a shop in Unity. Is there a reason why other shops can't get hold of AMD cards ?
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Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: aaashraffaa on January 07, 2017, 02:30:13 am
But really, every time I check, the Rx480 is always out of stock at vendors who sell it. And there is at least one variant of 1060 6GB in stock with the same vendors. What is the reason for it? Do Sri lankans favor Nvidia over AMD that much?

Have to agree with you on that one. I'm making my post here as a Hardware enthusiast and not a fanboy of any manufacturer.

AMD demand is high, I personally know so many people who had to wait more than a month after deciding they want to get an RX 480.
It's just the distributors in SL who are favoring Nvidia over AMD i think. As far as i know only gigabyte is bringing down radeon cards other than sapphire (They only have RX 470 & 460 BTW). They have to contribute a large amount to the market as well. Sapphire brings down a lot of cards and they sell like hot cakes so you can't blame it on them.

If my post doesn't make sense or has mistakes excuse me. I have just woken up :P will edit accordingly once my engine is up n running properly.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 07, 2017, 08:54:15 am
Now this is y we dont feed sensitive details with young guys who think they r right. They will always be hell bent right. Its good all ways to be correct. But we r doing biz n not playing games so for us we need to evaluate them before ordering stuff.

In SL some try to control others so u may not get what u will want. Well if AMD is going to give me profits well even I will bring down. NVIDIA is not my Brother or AMD is not my Farther to support them they are brands and if we get proper contact we will bring and sell. We dont keep changing from brand to Brand or take what others bring. In SL their are 2 Brands for AMD so you guys should ask them to bring more AMD than NVIDIA, why r they getting More NVIDIA than AMD ?

Some time back we did a lot of AMD what most of you would hv thought of, we got ASUS and were selling more than NVIDIA. But once we started ZOTAC we r doing it.

So dont think NVIDIA is my brand or AMD is not my Brand. But the link we provided has very accurate data. So Truckrice since u r not in to sensitive data for u its not reputable, i cannot blame u, u r only a gamer.

Like I told to zero the other day you have no idea who I am or what I'm doing. So stop with judging me based on a internet forum. (and I have no intention of revealing what I'm doing or who I am).

Sure if you don't get profits from AMD don't bring it. It's your business, but that doesn't mean you can mislead customers again and again just so you can sell stuff that you bring down to SL. This is not the first time and I know for sure this is not the last time. Just stay out of it rather than making your self an ass coz unlike old days people actually do know what's happening around the world.

Have to agree with you on that one. I'm making my post here as a Hardware enthusiast and not a fanboy of any manufacturer.

AMD demand is high, I personally know so many people who had to wait more than a month after deciding they want to get an RX 480.
It's just the distributors in SL who are favoring Nvidia over AMD i think. As far as i know only gigabyte is bringing down radeon cards other than sapphire (They only have RX 470 & 460 BTW). They have to contribute a large amount to the market as well. Sapphire brings down a lot of cards and they sell like hot cakes so you can't blame it on them.

If my post doesn't make sense or has mistakes excuse me. I have just woken up :P will edit accordingly once my engine is up n running properly.

And this, even the other day I asked zero about this but he didn't answer (on purpose or not i don't know). Not just AMD stuff other stuff as well. Everytime if I wanna buy something it's out of stock. Yes I get that the market is small in SL but do something about it rather than simply say it's out of stock.

Yeah you speak of two vendors. But it's like those two against the rest of the world now. All the other shops, including those at unity only have nvidea. There used to be days where AMD was widely available. I bought my first entry level gpu - Ati 5570 from a shop in Unity. Is there a reason why other shops can't get hold of AMD cards ?
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This is because AMD was "bad" over the past few years and the profit margin may be? (Even I don't like AMD cpus) And the marketing nvidia get is too damn high. Look at this forum, how many people are here willing to buy a nvidia card without even doing proper research.

Anyway the pattern changing now it seems. All I want is the competition so as customers we win in the end.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on January 07, 2017, 09:09:16 am
I actually purchased an ASUS Radeon HD7850 from you back in early 2013 as I remember. The card runs well to date and has aged well.

But really, every time I check, the Rx480 is always out of stock at vendors who sell it. And there is at least one variant of 1060 6GB in stock with the same vendors. What is the reason for it? Do Sri lankans favor Nvidia over AMD that much?


Yes I know you got it and the card went on flames within 24 Hrs.




Yeah you speak of two vendors. But it's like those two against the rest of the world now. All the other shops, including those at unity only have nvidea. There used to be days where AMD was widely available. I bought my first entry level gpu - Ati 5570 from a shop in Unity. Is there a reason why other shops can't get hold of AMD cards ?
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Why more  NVIDIA than AMD for sale in the market, you need to ask your own community n fm  your patronised IT Vendors. Well Unity does not worry what u need they sell what they have.


Like I told to zero the other day you have no idea who I am or what I'm doing. So stop with judging me based on a internet forum. (and I have no intention of revealing what I'm doing or who I am).


Sure if you don't get profits from AMD don't bring it. It's your business, but that doesn't mean you can mislead customers again and again just so you can sell stuff that you bring down to SL. This is not the first time and I know for sure this is not the last time. Just stay out of it rather than making your self an ass coz unlike old days people actually do know what's happening around the world.

I dont care too hoots who u r, u can take a horse to the pond but cannot make it drink. It will drink only when it wants. So u r one of them. U may know too well of AMD, since u may be the designer for AMD but for me we only do research. So simply dont drag this if u dont like it, just keep to you, since any one who wants to know can read n understand since they too hv their top working.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: Zer0 on January 07, 2017, 09:40:57 am
Like I told to zero the other day you have no idea who I am or what I'm doing. So stop with judging me based on a internet forum. (and I have no intention of revealing what I'm doing or who I am).
This is the internet. That can be arranged ;)

And this, even the other day I asked zero about this but he didn't answer (on purpose or not i don't know). Not just AMD stuff other stuff as well. Everytime if I wanna buy something it's out of stock. Yes I get that the market is small in SL but do something about it rather than simply say it's out of stock.
I probably missed your question. AMD products are unavailable due to limited supply. The global market is doing so well that we generally have to sit around for scraps because 2000-card weekly orders from Amazon get preference over the paltry 50-card monthly orders from Sri Lanka.

For some other items (like niche coolers, cases, peripherals etc) the only option is charging an exorbitant price for the cost and effort involved in getting down a product that has limited availability and is not in demand.

But really, every time I check, the Rx480 is always out of stock at vendors who sell it. And there is at least one variant of 1060 6GB in stock with the same vendors. What is the reason for it? Do Sri lankans favor Nvidia over AMD that much?
Unfortunately yes. You'll be surprised at the number of people who come looking for a 'GTX 4GB' graphics card who will not consider AMD simply because someone told them Nvidia is better. I generally take a few minutes to discuss and understand the thought process of these kinds of customers. 99% of the time, these are people who have formed an opinion based on feedback from someone who has never used an AMD card, while having never used an AMD card themselves either. A knowledgeable vendor IMO should atleast set the record straight and offer options, but unfortunately for consumers,  some of those once knowledgeable vendors have now chosen to profit off customer ignorance.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 07, 2017, 11:34:03 am
This is the internet. That can be arranged ;)

It ll be hard but yes it's a possibility. Then again what's so special about me to go that length just to know who I am lol (you know I'm joking)

I probably missed your question. AMD products are unavailable due to limited supply. The global market is doing so well that we generally have to sit around for scraps because 2000-card weekly orders from Amazon get preference over the paltry 50-card monthly orders from Sri Lanka.

For some other items (like niche coolers, cases, peripherals etc) the only option is charging an exorbitant price for the cost and effort involved in getting down a product that has limited availability and is not in demand.

Thank you. Understandable

Unfortunately yes. You'll be surprised at the number of people who come looking for a 'GTX 4GB' graphics card who will not consider AMD simply because someone told them Nvidia is better. I generally take a few minutes to discuss and understand the thought process of these kinds of customers. 99% of the time, these are people who have formed an opinion based on feedback from someone who has never used an AMD card, while having never used an AMD card themselves either. A knowledgeable vendor IMO should atleast set the record straight and offer options, but unfortunately for consumers,  some of those once knowledgeable vendors have now chosen to profit off customer ignorance.

This. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 07, 2017, 11:40:49 am

I dont care too hoots who u r, u can take a horse to the pond but cannot make it drink. It will drink only when it wants. So u r one of them. U may know too well of AMD, since u may be the designer for AMD but for me we only do research. So simply dont drag this if u dont like it, just keep to you, since any one who wants to know can read n understand since they too hv their top working.


You are the one who judged me based on what I said on a internet forum and here you are saying you don't care about me. Do you hear yourself?

Research? What research? That article is not research. Like I said try visiting a reputable site next time.

Don't drag what? Keep it with me? What? So you are asking me not to express my point of view on a internet forum but you can mislead people all u want? Dude please.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: ramishka on January 07, 2017, 11:21:12 pm
Yes I know you got it and the card went on flames within 24 Hrs.

I'm sorry I don't get what you mean by this. I didnt mention that in a sarcastic manner. I actually do have the 4+ year old card I brought from you plugged into my secondary desktop right now as we speak. You must have mistook me for someone else.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: EGS on January 08, 2017, 09:52:48 am
I'm sorry I don't get what you mean by this. I didnt mention that in a sarcastic manner. I actually do have the 4+ year old card I brought from you plugged into my secondary desktop right now as we speak. You must have mistook me for someone else.

Oh i am sorry i thought it was you who had got the card and it went in flames the following day. Which he got replaced after 2 Weeks since it took place during the new year in China.
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: cat eye on January 08, 2017, 09:04:16 pm
nvidia or amd even mcdonalds or kfc i m going to buy best vga thats it, nowadays amd rise they showing there colors that will lead nvidia  to make competitive gpu thats what we want i have a nvidia yes but my next  upgrade will be with amd but lets see ,u never knows ;D ;D
Title: Re: New AMD graphics cards!
Post by: truckerice on January 08, 2017, 09:18:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8tDaPLHxiE